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  1. #11
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    Steeled's Avatar
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    Conchobar Pridwen
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    Ultros
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by CUTS3R View Post
    ^ Agreed.
    Nobody deserves the win on any content until they go through it. Theres is no such thing as " i deserve it because i almost did it".
    Question for you..

    If you're a dragoon, you grab a duty finder Titan, and you die at 10% but the group clears, did you deserve the win?

    Now, if you're a dragoon, you grab a duty finder, but one of the healers always dies at 10% and that domino's into a wipe, you don't deserve the win?

    Job doesn't really matter in the scenario, just picked a job for easy example that isn't as vital to brute-forcing through a win as say the tank or a healer.
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  2. #12
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    AccountBanned's Avatar
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    Speg Tackular
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    Leviathan
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Steeled View Post
    Question for you..

    If you're a dragoon, you grab a duty finder Titan, and you die at 10% but the group clears, did you deserve the win?

    Now, if you're a dragoon, you grab a duty finder, but one of the healers always dies at 10% and that domino's into a wipe, you don't deserve the win?

    Job doesn't really matter in the scenario, just picked a job for easy example that isn't as vital to brute-forcing through a win as say the tank or a healer.
    Both of your questions = "NO"

    but one of them will result in a win...and later when you have your relic +1 and can't dodge anything, people will know that you either paid or you got carried.
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  3. #13
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    Maki Maki'
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    Weaver Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AccountBanned View Post
    Both of your questions = "NO"

    but one of them will result in a win...and later when you have your relic +1 and can't dodge anything, people will know that you either paid or you got carried.
    Haha, oh, you are a funny person.
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  4. #14
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    Vantwan's Avatar
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    Serafall Lockheart
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    It's funny that there are still people paying for titan runs after like the game's been out for 2 months. It's even funnier that merc guilds are getting mad at FC's hosting free titan carries.
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    http://osu.ppy.sh/u/1934154

  5. #15
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    Issac's Avatar
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    Kytheren Kenni
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    Seraph
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Dunno 'bout you guys, but whenever I see a pay-for Titan carry advert on my server, I tell them to go away in a not-so-kind manner.

    Some join with me in said shunning, others send me tells of anger. Iunno. I'll likely get flamed here, too.
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  6. #16
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    Steeled's Avatar
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    Conchobar Pridwen
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    Ultros
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by AccountBanned View Post
    Both of your questions = "NO"

    but one of them will result in a win...and later when you have your relic +1 and can't dodge anything, people will know that you either paid or you got carried.
    I can agree that the answer to both is the same, on the other hand. If a group is fighting a hard fight (for them, whatever content) and someone dies very late, they don't usually kick them before they pop loot open. So the common answer to someone dying late in the fight is that they still deserved to be present for the win.

    If a person who didn't win is in a group who did, they deserve the win. If a person who can win feels they need to pay to pay, or find a group like the OP's group, there's nothing wrong with that.

    Like you said, if you have your relic but still suck, that will become apparent. All groups like this (I'm on the same server but don't know them fyi) are doing is improving the pool for the casual content everyone must do.
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  7. #17
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    Kal-El's Avatar
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    Kal El
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by CUTS3R View Post
    ^ Agreed.
    Nobody deserves the win on any content until they go through it. Theres is no such thing as " i deserve it because i almost did it".
    Do you leave your customers when titan is at 5% because they "Haven't gone through it"?
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  8. #18
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    Maki Maki'
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    Faerie
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    Weaver Lv 90
    Okay, but really, here's how I feel about this:

    If someone dies early post-heart to plumes or some such, then gets rezzed and can't withstand tumults, then gets carried to the end... they deserve the win because they got lucky with a good party. Good for them. (I am guilty of this)

    If someone can dodge every Weight, landslide, bomb formation, etc. but can't get a good party... they may "deserve" to win, but guess what? The fight is dependent on the party. Sorry.

    If someone pays for the win and gets carried through... they deserve the win because, hey, it's the same as stacking the cards in your favor.

    If someone gets hit by landslide, or dies pre-heart, they definitely don't deserve the win and should be laughed out of the party.
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    Last edited by ufufu; 11-07-2013 at 07:19 AM.

  9. #19
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    Auric Cadogan
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    Ultros
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    Lancer Lv 60
    This topic has turned into pure comedy.
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    RSS - Now Recruiting!

  10. #20
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    MushroomSoup's Avatar
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    Character
    Get Shrekt
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    Ultros
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    Machinist Lv 70
    RSS doesn't carry players, we assist those that are capable of holding their own in the fight. We provide them with people that are equally as knowledgeable with the fight to greater their chances of success.

    I think someone is deserving of a win when they're capable of doing their job successfully from the beginning to the end of the fight.

    If that ruins other people's chances of exploiting desperate people that are tired of waiting for a decent group, then so be it.

    Haters gonna hate.
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