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    Selyndria's Avatar
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    Selyndria Evangeline
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    Quick Synthesis: Please Adjust!

    SE please adjust the way Quick Synthesis works. Level 50 cook should be able to synth a level 3 synth all day long without fear of it breaking quick synthesis. If I do this manually not only is there not even the slightest chance it will fail I can also hq 100% of the time. I'm not asking for hq's I'm just asking that when I want to quick synth some table salt the first 2 don't break. Its ridiculous.
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    Sanctus Thefarter
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    I'm in favor of this. I used to manually synth everything to ensure the 100% success rates, but it took so long I gave up, and now I allow for several fails when I calculate my costs to make said item. Very frustrating, they should make it so you have to be at least 11 levels above the recipe level to get the 100% success quick synth, because I'm sure we don't want people quick synthing anything 40+ at a 100% rate.
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    Roth Trailfinder
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    Quick Synthesis should look at your enabled skills. If you have Careful Synthesis (or Careful Synthesis 2) either because you are that class or because you have slotted it in as a cross class ability, then it should be using that rather than Basic Synthesis.

    That said - Basic Synthesis has a 90% chance of success. That means, a 10% chance of failure. If the 40 Durability recipe takes one Basic Synthesis to complete, then Quick Synthesis should currently have four shots at finishing it successfully - and though not impossible, the odds of failing all four are 10% x 10% x 10% x 10% ... or 0.01%. We should not be failing more than one in one thousand if the Quick Synthesis is using Basic Synthesis and it only takes one to finish it.
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    Shar Altismar
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    even more annoying is fact that i can manually synth a stack faster then quick synth can and have no fails it seems to be setup completely to make ppl not use it so why even waste the time putting it in game?
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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altismar View Post
    even more annoying is fact that i can manually synth a stack faster then quick synth can and have no fails it seems to be setup completely to make ppl not use it so why even waste the time putting it in game?
    So you can setup 100 synths of a basic component and go eat a sammich or something.

    Personally I think the ability to essentially be able to afk and craft has to have some level of risk involved, regardless if you're synthing a level 2 or level 42 item. It's frustrating to see 2 fails in a row on something so low level, but over several synths it averages out. If you don't want to deal with the failures then just manually craft it as the poster above suggests.
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    Thunderin Lightnin
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    I've learned my lesson. I'm better off synthesizing everything myself and take the extra time to HQ it. I'm trying to level up, and those HQ's give me up to 200% more EXP and gil during those leves. Screw Quick Synthesis; there more penalties than benefits to this system and should be upgraded or forgotten.
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    Zahra Dubs
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    I use quick synthesis all of the time. Once you've hit lvl 50 in several crafts you no long need HQ mats at all, ESP for cooking where everything needs 6 ingredients, quick synth is amazing. I do it to set up 80-90 of each reagent so I can just macro synth my coil food whenever I've got free time here and there.

    Really, it doesn't need to be changed at all. If the materials are worth so much you're worried about breaking them, then manually synth them. Time input vs reward.
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    Last edited by zdub303; 11-29-2013 at 03:13 AM.

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    Don Leprechaun
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    i agree it should be changed
    as it is the people that "cheat" and use macro's to craft for them, can set it up so they get 100% HQ items, when doing big batches of materials.
    whereas the ones that do not cheat, get on average 1 HQ, 94 NQ, and 5 failures! from quick synthing something, that if we pressed 6 buttons would be 100% HQ.
    this is a system that is crying out for people to cheat, which is not good
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    Last edited by donlep; 11-29-2013 at 06:13 AM.

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    Makado Kitase
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    Macros have nothing to do with cheating, its just convenience. But yeah I hate the fails on NQ quicksynth also.
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    Mitski Zahard
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    Not to get derail the topic, but... I would like to see them remove the quick synth limitation on 1-star items. I hate being forced to manually synth all of the materials.
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