Scripted fights.

[Bladenite81]

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Demon Souls line of gaming is not difficult, nor is it brutal, its indifferent and repetitive. Every creature has a routine and tells, you just have more fluid movement and options in those games. The NPCs are not trying to win, they are performing the same scripts, just the scripts for them are more intricate. I doubt people as a general rule would like enemies to have AI.

[xRitzx]

Demon Souls line of gaming is not difficult, nor is it brutal, its indifferent and repetitive. Every creature has a routine and tells, you just have more fluid movement and options in those games. The NPCs are not trying to win, they are performing the same scripts, just the scripts for them are more intricate. I doubt people as a general rule would like enemies to have AI.

I agree Demon's Souls is not difficult after you learn. While enemies in Demon's Souls have scripts, they are usually based on the environment situation. For example, if you are facing an NPC black phantom, they will simply hack and slash you. If you have your back to an NPC black phantom, they will back stab you. I only play a few games a year and the Souls series is the closest I know of to Hulan's description. No other current moderately-popular game has the difficult reputation that Souls games do even though their difficulty is only because of trial and error. Maybe there's some niche game or something that fits Hulan's description but are there any popular modern games that closely fit Hulan's description?

[Bladenite81]

No I do not believe there are any, honestly that is the thrill of PvP..playing against an opponent who truly wants to win and will do anything they know how to do in order to succeed. PvE would not last long as a general rule with such a punishing system in place, people would just leave.

[Tupsi]

No I do not believe there are any, honestly that is the thrill of PvP..playing against an opponent who truly wants to win and will do anything they know how to do in order to succeed. PvE would not last long as a general rule with such a punishing system in place, people would just leave.

That's the catch 22 - People say monsters don't "try to win", but if they try to win people ragequit because the monster did everything to win and thus want to be able to win no matter what.