Say No to auto-attack!

[Punainen]

Go please play Final Fantasy XI and you will touch GREAT game and after that come back and tell us what do you feel..
Probably you never was in "end game PTs"

I did that. Melee jobs were duuuuullll... You just sit there staring at the screen and hit one or two buttons only once in a while for WSs or buffs. Mages were better 'cause I could always be casting something, but melee was so 'do nothing' I could practically use the battle time to go read or play a second game simultaneously.

[Cerelyn]

This feature is what kept me from joining back when this was released. I might consider installing my copy of the game now.

[Chromeo_El_Lobo]

After having played XIV as long as I have, I'd have to say that in order for it gain complex, strategic battles, Auto-Attack is needed.

[Physic]

After having played XIV as long as I have, I'd have to say that in order for it gain complex, strategic battles, Auto-Attack is needed.

What is a strategic battle, and how does auto attack help strategic battles.

[Punainen]

There's no stopping auto-attack now, but if we're lucky they'll let us toggle it off, because I prefer hitting 1 repeatedly to staring dumbly at my screen like I did so often in XI; and I've found many times a tactical advantage to being able to cease attack in a split second; like if a mob that had been getting bashed on suddenly needs to sleep, I can stop instantly and not wake it up, or if we need to stop and let the tank regain hate, or when a mushroom is gonna poison me if I smack it.

ALSO THINK OF ARCHERS!!! They have a move that stuns as long as they don't hit it again, so they have time to back off and prep... Archers will not get this chance. Chances are they'll stun it then immediately unstun it; which will render this move utterly worthless.

Auto-attack is for lazy people.

[weeble]

yes u can play ffxi blindly and that is what they are bringing back, least in start of ffxi people acually used chains and bursts so it was still fun, by the end of ffxi it was just a brainless zerg. no attention was needed to play it and that is what they are bringing back to this game with switching battle systems and now adding auto attack. ffxi was fun and great but to give us the same thing again is just weak.

[Honz]

Honestly I couldn't care what kind of system they implemented if it meant getting rid of the stamina bar.

Need restrictions on spells and abilities to stop people from spamming non stop? Stamina bar is not a solution. A real solution is cool downs. Shared cool downs between certain spells and abilities, longer cool downs and recast times, longer cast times etc.

Since it has been determined that the stamina bar is being removed, it also creates a few issues with the current system.

Haste and slow as of the current system affects how fast or slow the stamina bar regens. If the bar was removed how would those effects play a role? What would stop a heavy swing spamming marauder from hitting just as fast as a light stabbing gladiator? Obvious answer is auto attack and the developers deemed it so.

[Seikninkuru]

Honestly I couldn't care what kind of system they implemented if it meant getting rid of the stamina bar.

Need restrictions on spells and abilities to stop people from spamming non stop? Stamina bar is not a solution. A real solution is cool downs. Shared cool downs between certain spells and abilities, longer cool downs and recast times, longer cast times etc.

Since it has been determined that the stamina bar is being removed, it also creates a few issues with the current system.

Haste and slow as of the current system affects how fast or slow the stamina bar regens. If the bar was removed how would those effects play a role? What would stop a heavy swing spamming marauder from hitting just as fast as a light stabbing gladiator? Obvious answer is auto attack and the developers deemed it so.

i lol'd, stamina makes more sense than a cooldown.

[Physic]

Honestly I couldn't care what kind of system they implemented if it meant getting rid of the stamina bar.

Need restrictions on spells and abilities to stop people from spamming non stop? Stamina bar is not a solution. A real solution is cool downs. Shared cool downs between certain spells and abilities, longer cool downs and recast times, longer cast times etc.

Since it has been determined that the stamina bar is being removed, it also creates a few issues with the current system.

Haste and slow as of the current system affects how fast or slow the stamina bar regens. If the bar was removed how would those effects play a role? What would stop a heavy swing spamming marauder from hitting just as fast as a light stabbing gladiator? Obvious answer is auto attack and the developers deemed it so.

it wasnt about restrictions on spam, it was about choosing what skill to use wisely, cooldowns in no way simulates that.

[Honz]

it wasnt about restrictions on spam, it was about choosing what skill to use wisely, cooldowns in no way simulates that.

Not spamming = choosing skills wisely

From a dev post
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post155331

Because of the restrictions of the stamina gauge, I can't execute actions with various special effects when I need to.
We are planning to remove the stamina gauge. Like before, TP and MP abilities will still be affected by recast times. There will also be cooldown times between actions.

apparently the developers also think we need cooldowns in place of lol stamina bars.