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    TetsuyaHikari's Avatar
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    Notice to Scholars in AK groups

    Please stop casting Shadow Flare on top of the wall to blind your party members. They can't see the void forming on the ground when they're standing so close to the wall and attacking it. Thanks.

    I know I certainly won't be doing this when I run through as a Scholar later. It's just annoying and doesn't really contribute much to the fight in general, honestly.
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    Terius Palemoon
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    Maybe zoom your camera out and watch for when the sides are clear so you know when to run?

    I'm a SCH and do the whole of AK in cleric stance. Shadowflare and 5 other DoTs make for decent dmg to get the wall down before bees even spawn.
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    Zoom your camera out and don't stand so close to the wall, it has a huuuuuuuge hitbox and you have less of a chance to get knocked off from being too close.

    Shadow Flare adds some nice DPS so I dunno why you think it doesn't contribute.
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    Yeah, this is a case where 'zoom your camera out' actually will fix your problem. And it contributes a lot, honestly, any extra damage on the wall is welcome imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terius View Post
    Maybe zoom your camera out and watch for when the sides are clear so you know when to run?

    I'm a SCH and do the whole of AK in cleric stance. Shadowflare and 5 other DoTs make for decent dmg to get the wall down before bees even spawn.
    Isn't that Yoshi-P's answer? Zoom out and you'll be fine? Lol.

    Anyway, the camera isn't the issue, really. I don't have a problem dodging it, but when Shadow Flare is dropped, suddenly I can't see.

    Also, I'm on PS3, so zooming out during a fight isn't quite as easy as it is do on PC, I'm sure. It's just a matter of consideration, I think, that's all.

    Demon Wall itself is not a difficult fight, so Shadow Flare isn't even needed. I've been in a handful of groups that took it down before the bees without the use of Shadow Flare at all.

    EDIT: I guess the wording was wrong there. I'm about to get Shadow Flare on my SCH, so I know it does contribute, but it doesn't really feel necessary for this particular fight, ya know? Yes, it helps, but impairing the vision of your DPS isn't exactly helpful, lol.

    I don't play with my camera zoomed out, so suddenly having to do so seems a little unfair. Even during the Titan HM fight, I don't play with the camera zoomed out, but I still clear the fight without issue. So yeah... I'm sure that the feature helps, but as a PS3 player, it's not as easy to zoom in and zoom out during fights, and such.
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    Last edited by TetsuyaHikari; 11-10-2013 at 05:39 AM.

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    Why? Are you blind? It's easy to see. It crosses the entire room.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TetsuyaHikari View Post
    Isn't that Yoshi-P's answer? Zoom out and you'll be fine? Lol.

    Anyway, the camera isn't the issue, really. I don't have a problem dodging it, but when Shadow Flare is dropped, suddenly I can't see.

    Also, I'm on PS3, so zooming out during a fight isn't quite as easy as it is do on PC, I'm sure. It's just a matter of consideration, I think, that's all.

    Demon Wall itself is not a difficult fight, so Shadow Flare isn't even needed. I've been in a handful of groups that took it down before the bees without the use of Shadow Flare at all.
    I play as MNK or PLD in AK a lot, on gamepad, and it's not hard to zoom out at all. You can do it before engaging, you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    Why? Are you blind? It's easy to see. It crosses the entire room.
    No, I'm not blind, but when you have a purple-ish/blue aura mixing with a similar color, it's not exactly easy to see the floor changing on you, lol.
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    If you are EVER in the middle of the arena for more than .02 seconds and DW isn't using Repel, you're doing it wrong.
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    Shoulder button + camera stick down. the difficulty is unfathomable.
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