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  1. #21
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    Sove92's Avatar
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    Soveia Shadowsong
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    Odin
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    The problem aren't the Steady/Obey stances themselves, but the fact that once you decide to use one of the pet's CDs (which they don't use under Obey/Steady), the stance will switch to default and you can say goodbye to the rest of your CDs as well.

    Typical example for me playing SCH.

    I keep Selene under Steady all the time, so it won't use CDs on its own. I decide to use Fey Glow, it happens. However, Selene will also immediately use Silent Dusk right after Fey Glow, almost always wasting the CD. The only way to prevent this is to put Selene (or any other pet) back to Steady/Obey just before the CD's cast bar finishes (Fey Glow has no cast bar) and even this is a gamble. 50% of the time you do this, the CD's effect won't go off but you still wasted the CD.
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  2. #22
    Player Taruranto's Avatar
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    Archs Crysta
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    I don't have this problem. If I use obey, it only uses its basic attack or cure until I tell it to do something.
    That's a problem, because she'll start to blow her Regen the moment you decide to manually embrace.
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  3. #23
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    Shayla Asiaine
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    Balmung
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    Carpenter Lv 50
    I am a Scholar 50. I have completed up to and including Titan Hard Mode (only coil left!). I do not remember any point where I needed to micro manage my pet, nor any time when it would have been beneficial. The most I do is occasionally place the pet or recall it back to me. (This is easy enough to do as its a single command and you point and click and there she flies).

    Note, I don't have any fancy equipment or something special to make up for the lack of micro management. I really think its unnecessary (at least up to Titan, don't know about coil). So I would suggest the following:

    If you need to place her somewhere, go ahead (can sometimes be useful/different/fun).

    Otherwise, let her be.
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  4. #24
    Player Taruranto's Avatar
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    Archs Crysta
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Asiaine View Post
    I am a Scholar 50. I have completed up to and including Titan Hard Mode (only coil left!). I do not remember any point where I needed to micro manage my pet, nor any time when it would have been beneficial. The most I do is occasionally place the pet or recall it back to me. (This is easy enough to do as its a single command and you point and click and there she flies).

    Note, I don't have any fancy equipment or something special to make up for the lack of micro management. I really think its unnecessary (at least up to Titan, don't know about coil). So I would suggest the following:

    If you need to place her somewhere, go ahead (can sometimes be useful/different/fun).

    Otherwise, let her be.

    Just because you can, it doesn't mean you should.

    A successfully micro-managed Eos can heal pretty much all of AK alone leaving you free to DPS. A SCH who micro-manages Eos during Titan, using her buff to enhance healing and defenses at the right time is what separates a great SCH from a mediocre one.
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  5. #25
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    Hysterior's Avatar
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    Larek Darkholme
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    Gilgamesh
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    Sage Lv 100
    I would love a macro:
    /pet Embrace
    /pet Steady

    forcing her heal without the cooldown spells would really be a huge step for SCH
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

  6. #26
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Let us write our own AIs. like Gambit system in FFXII.
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  7. #27
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    axemtitanium's Avatar
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    Titania Basilikos
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    I've healed turn 4 and never left Cleric Stance in AK as SCH without manually using any of the fairy's abilities except Embrace. I generally don't use the Place command unless it's absolutely necessary (t5 is the only place I can think of). Could I be a better healer if I did micro the fairy? Maybe. Is there anything in this game hard enough to require it? No.

    That said, being able to put pet actions into macros would be awesome, if only so I could macro both fairies' Embraces into one button.
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  8. #28
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    Shayla Asiaine
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    Balmung
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    Carpenter Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Taruranto View Post
    Just because you can, it doesn't mean you should.

    A successfully micro-managed Eos can heal pretty much all of AK alone leaving you free to DPS. A SCH who micro-manages Eos during Titan, using her buff to enhance healing and defenses at the right time is what separates a great SCH from a mediocre one.
    I suppose you are right that by micro-managing you might better optimize your overall DPS/HPS or whatever you are looking for. But I guess it's what you judge as what is needed. If all you wish is to successfully complete the dungeon/primal in a timely fashion with no deaths, than micro-managing is definitely not needed.
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  9. #29
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    Kishin Zankuro
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    While I think the gambit system would be the best option, a simple fix would be to enable the player to right click a pets spells while under 'Obey', and each right click would turn that spell to 'auto-cast'. Meaning the pet will only cast those abilities that have been enabled based on its existing AI rules, and will not cast anything else automatically, period.

    Example: SCH Pet under Obey, right click Embrace. Pet will only auto cast Embrace. Manualy use Fey Light, pet uses the ability and resumes its Embrace AI script. Move pet, pet resumes Embrace AI script. Pet will not overwrite Fey Light with Fey Glow unless told to do so, and will do nothing but Embrace automatically regardless of other player input.

    Again, I think gambits are still the way to go, and should at least be an option. Use AI to control pet, or write your own AI to control pets. That said, the change I'm suggesting would make things much less of a headache, imo.
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  10. #30
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    Holden Caufield
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Therion View Post
    While I think the gambit system would be the best option, a simple fix would be to enable the player to right click a pets spells while under 'Obey', and each right click would turn that spell to 'auto-cast'. Meaning the pet will only cast those abilities that have been enabled based on its existing AI rules, and will not cast anything else automatically, period.

    Example: SCH Pet under Obey, right click Embrace. Pet will only auto cast Embrace. Manualy use Fey Light, pet uses the ability and resumes its Embrace AI script. Move pet, pet resumes Embrace AI script. Pet will not overwrite Fey Light with Fey Glow unless told to do so, and will do nothing but Embrace automatically regardless of other player input.

    Again, I think gambits are still the way to go, and should at least be an option. Use AI to control pet, or write your own AI to control pets. That said, the change I'm suggesting would make things much less of a headache, imo.
    This. All of my this. Simple fix and would go a long long way in helping enhance scholars. Good suggestion.
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