Please Separate Stat Allocation for SMN and SCH

[KittenJitsu]

Well what I don't understand is why they think SCH are pie based. In party's, if you notice, sch fill the "pie" role. They have no passive for increase pie. Also pie is a underrated stat in comparison to MND for healers.

I am so confused.

[NaruWhitehelm]

Cleric stance = Swaps current INT and MND attribute ratings, while increasing potency of attack spells by 10% and >>>>>reducing potency of healing spells by 20%<<<<<<. Effect ends upon reuse.
Wanna guess why that doesn't help your scholar at all?

[Gilthas]

I also don't like that SMN and SCH share the same allocation stats.

It really goes against the phylosophy of being able to play all jobs on the same character.

[Bluejay]

I also don't like that SMN and SCH share the same allocation stats.

It really goes against the phylosophy of being able to play all jobs on the same character.

For better or worse, that was not the philosophy. In one of the developer interviews, Yoshi-P stated that the split in advanced jobs was a 1 way street and you wouldn't be able to make a character that could switch back and forth between SCH and SMN effectively. I'll find the link to the interview and post it later.

[Sotek]

No. The stats allocation is a completely pointless and borderline worthless system on every Class except Arcanist, and I'm glad it isn't on Arcanist.

I also don't like that SMN and SCH share the same allocation stats.

It really goes against the phylosophy of being able to play all jobs on the same character.

How? A 15 stat difference (if you split for both) isn't going to out right prevent you from playing either Job, nor is a 30 stat difference for that matter. This is a RPG and defining your character through stats is a huge part of that... A stat allocation system without such a dynamic is completely redundant...

[Nihility]

they said it will be how dual jobs works, you have to choose what you will specialize in and switching stats will require meaningful effort
Possibly why it's such a worthless mechanic on every other class, because they don't have dual job ability yet

[Adlitim]

they said it will be how dual jobs works, you have to choose what you will specialize in and switching stats will require meaningful effort
Possibly why it's such a worthless mechanic on every other class, because they don't have dual job ability yet

The best part about this mmo was being able to do all classes on one char. Why take that away?

[DNO]

The best part about this mmo was being able to do all classes on one char. Why take that away?

They have not taken that away. Its right there. You can use SCH and SMN but you just wont be as powerful as someone who mains it. This is ho it should be. you can also change stats with 10k points if you want to change your main.

[Ryel]

They have not taken that away. Its right there. You can use SCH and SMN but you just wont be as powerful as someone who mains it. This is ho it should be. you can also change stats with 10k points if you want to change your main.

Actually this is inaccurate as the game currently stands, ALL other classes have independent stat pools for allocation with the exception of SCH and SMN atm granted SCH and SMN are currently the only two jobs that stem from the same base class.

But the point still stands that all other jobs are free to swap without having to worry about taking a stat hit, you can go from PLD (VIT) to DRG (STR) to BLM (INT) and none of your stat allocations for any of those jobs would have a bearing on your choice to swap.

So no, saying "Thats how it should be" doesnt really hold any water until we see other classes develop into more than one job.

Oh and as a small additional note, the class system as current is one that grew out of the base that was made in 1.0, for example DRG was LNC 30 and PGL 15 to unlock while MNK was PGL 30 and LNC 15 to unlock. And yes while the two MAIN classes required to unlock the jobs were separate the requirements were near identical.. the point? Both DRG and MNK had and STILL have two different pools for stat allocation.

The Keeper's Hymn
Reset all your stats
Byuable in every GC store.

And in response to this, it seems a tad harsh towards SMN/SCH's to be the ONLY two jobs forced to spend points to have to play two different roles at their highest potential when once again AS CURRENT no other job is bound by this restriction.

SCH and SMN are not classes.
so it is still true that every class have their own stats.

Jobs* Or are you really going to argue semantics when you know full well what was explained and how the current system works

[Sotek]

The best part about this mmo was being able to do all classes on one char. Why take that away?

How have they taken it away? You can still play Scholar and Summoner on the same character... Making it so people can specialize one in particular in no way removes your ability to play both, it just means people who really like Scholar will have 15 Mind up on you; 15 Mind which nobody will know about, nor seems to care about so far. I have yet to see a single Group/Shout/whatever demanding to know what players alloted stats to...