Forget Vote kick - Add Dutyfinder Black List

[Airget]

I't s abit complex to setup because now you are creatinga new check for the DF to look at. No longer is it simply add 1 tank, 2 DD and 1 healer, but now you are asking it to do, check tank, check tank name, check tank server, check user's DF/blacklist, are they blacklist:no, then proceed to put them in group, are they blacklist:yes, then continue looking for another group.

Above is just an example of how it adds to the stress ofa server for matchups and it's not something that could easily be added into the came.

What might be an easier method is a DF friendlist, a blacklist just creates to much red tape in preventing people from playing but a friendlist provides a means of encouraging playing with others.

For a DF friendlist it could work in two-three ways:

1=have a friendlist which when you look at it can show you if friend is online on said server/if they are DFing and as what role. In this instance you can see what they are DFing for and if you want to join in can request to join in.

2=have a system of DF friendlist that allows you to send messages crossserver in a generic pre-made message such as "Hey I'm about to do x instance want to join me?" it's then sent to the moogle and upon responding you are automatically matched up with the played who requested said instance

So maybe just those two, there is less red tape with the second method, since in the second method it could simply check to see if person is online, then you can send message, odds are friends on different servers might be able to contact from an outside source or Lodestone.

Lodestone itself could be designed as a means for cross server players to DF together to make the in game party setup easier.

With the First concept it does add more stress to server cause you have it checking to see who's online, if they are currently DFing and then the option to request joining in, which means it always has to keep the info updated to a point which means it has to continue to draw the information from abc server to send to server x..

The second concept can simplify it by just making the DF friendlist a mail box of generic messages about doing a duty to set up with other players, so the only processing that friendlist would have to do is sending the message from server a to server b. Then to add even less stress to the server you have the communication done through the lodestone site to setup cross server premade DF through a unique page that could be a DF FC that just gathers friends from different servers onto on page and they can communicate/set things up based on what they read on the page so that when they log on they can get right into the game rather than having to log in to set things up.

[Ebon_Drake]

i want this added!

I hate troll tanks in endgame dungeons

[KittenJitsu]

Two problems with this idea that comes to mind.

1) They still cannot be kicked in your current run. That annoying tank is still there...

2) Blacklist has a cap of 200. 99.5% of names on there are gold spammers.

I would like to vote kick people.

[xRitzx]

Everyone here seems to be in favor of having a duty finder black list. I'm kind of neutral on this but some points to consider.

1. The current black list only allows 200 players. What will you do once your list inevitably gets filled up?
2. Everyone has to learn sometime. I know I horribly suck sometimes when I first do a dungeon or primal because I don't know what to do. However, after about 6 runs, I would almost say I'm better than 75% of other players. I start off worse than average but eventually get better than average with experience because I apply what I learn. What if someone is learning the instance and not trolling?
3. Some people have bad lag/connection for one reason or another. I probably disconnected from 4 garudas a couple weeks ago because my connection from Comcast was terrible. Since then, Comcast finally fixed my Internet after a month of problems and I have better connection than most players. I don't expect to have any more lag problems but other players undoubtedly will continue to have those problems. Are you going to isolate people that have bad lag/connection?

A black list sounds like a good idea but I think it still has problems. Sometimes people just have a bad day and will get angry over the slightest thing. You don't know someone by being around them one time for half an hour to an hour. You get know people by spending more time with them. One instance isn't long enough to warrant black listing players in my opinion.

[Claire_Ares]

A seperate black list for duty finder is more what i wanted, not to just prevent people currently on your black list from joining.

[Argent_Wings]

The problem with a blacklist is there are always two sides to every story and I see no reason why I should take the word of a complete stranger on the way another complete stranger carries themselves in a dungeon. Blacklisting people so YOU can avoid them is fine. The idea of barring someone from the entire DF because enough people blacklisted them is making decisions for me that I gave you no authority to make.

[Brises]

The problem with a blacklist is there are always two sides to every story and I see no reason why I should take the word of a complete stranger on the way another complete stranger carries themselves in a dungeon. Blacklisting people so YOU can avoid them is fine. The idea of barring someone from the entire DF because enough people blacklisted them is making decisions for me that I gave you no authority to make.

This ^
What if you df with a person who has an extensive blacklist? That is going to slow down your df process as well. And people are going to blacklist for far more frivolous reasons than AFKing in dungeons. Some will blacklist just because someone is not good enough. I will play with players who need to learn. I don't mind. And someone who deserves to be blacklisted one time, may choose to change his ways another rime.

[Blackcat75]

If it came down to this or vote kick I would gladly have a blacklist instead. To many times I have seen vote kick become a troll platform.

Though probably a lot harder to implement, but you could have the search function do a simple normal DF que and when you lot comes up it checks all the names against the 4 or 8 Blacklists. If any match your black list you get bumped and the next person in the que takes your place. A lot easier on server stress and if you want to Blacklist 200 people then go for it, but you end up paying for it. not everyone else.

[Zakalwe]

Yeah that would be a great Idea , I could black list all the players with poor gear so I can only get groups with good players .

...and as your blacklist keeps growing as you add more and more folks less geared than you (though perhaps they will soon) your DF wait times start growing as well.

Hehe.

[CUTS3R]

100% true, and all those players with 'bad' gear can not group with elitists who demand ilevel 70+ gear for level 50 ilevel 55 dungeons!

Well... It won't really change anything in the end then.