Eye for an eye

[Sinaloa]

Since you hear more often how bad this skill is followed by a completly wrong explaination here´s the tooltip:

Erects a magicked barrier around a single party member or pet for 30s.
Barrier Effect: 20% chance that when barrier is struck, the striker will deal 10% less damage for 20s.


This does not mean that an average of one in five hits deal 10% less damage.

Every hit got a chance (of 20%) to debuff the enemy upon a sucessful hit. The barrier lasts 30 seconds. The chance the debuff applies is sth between 90 and 97% on average depending on the enemies attackspeed. Multiple enemies each have a chance to be debuffed for each blow they land.

As an enemy is debuffed it will deal 10% less damage. It´s not relevant whom they deal the damage to.
e.g. The tank was buffed with Eye for an Eye. Titan hits the tank several times and finally gets debuffed. Every move he does including his stomps 10% less damage for 20 seconds.

The barrier lasts 30 seconds and the debuff 20 seconds. This means it can happen that a mob can be debuffed 40 seconds from one barrier if you are lucky.

Granted it isn´t that good on tank and spank enemies ist awesome on large addpulls like wp and unavoidable aoe encounters like Titan and Coil.

For the actual numbers on this:
http://valk.dancing-mad.com/?page_id=350

All you have to do is look at the table and see its a great skill.

[Tanaya]

When stacked on other abilities, Eye for an Eye is an great tool to have for any healer. Personally, I enjoy it.

[Raminax]

People think Eye for an Eye is bad? Damage mitigation is never bad, sillies. Especially when it reduces ALL damage. Though I'll admit the activation method is rather roundabout.

I mean, what else are you going to crossclass anyway? Ruin and do awful DPS? Physick and never see a Freecure proc again?

(This is assuming you're a glorious White Mage and not a wimpy Scholar)

[Sinaloa]

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(This is assuming you're a glorious White Mage and not a wimpy Scholar)

Sadly a lot of those people spreading wrong informations about efae are Scholars themself. And people do trust them instead of reading the tooltip or just test it.

[Alu79]

Sadly a lot of those people spreading wrong informations about efae are Scholars themself. And people do trust them instead of reading the tooltip or just test it.

What exactly is the misinformation being spread tho? I haven't seen anything. Just the E4E is bad? It is a nice spell, not omg amazing but ya nice spell to have. My issue with our kit is that I feel like all our spells are kinda crappy unless we stack the hell out of them. E4E+Virus+SS is very noticable, any of those spells alone tho is a waste of resources imo.

[Hulan]

Every hit got a chance (of 20%) to debuff the enemy upon a sucessful hit. The barrier lasts 30 seconds. The chance the debuff applies is sth between 90 and 97% on average depending on the enemies attackspeed. Multiple enemies each have a chance to be debuffed for each blow they land.

While I agree with your premise, and have recently raised Eye for an Eye from my secondary debuff to my primary go-to debuff [due entirely to a similar debate in this thread]. You numbers are actually off.

The probability of an event taking place over the course of several independent probabilities is the inverse of the probability of it never happening to the nth power where n is the number of incidences.

1 - (1 - p)^n

n can be generalized to be the duration over the attack delay.

1 - (1 - p)^(d/ad) or 1 - (0.8)^(30/ad)

Which is 89% for ad = 3. I'm going entirely off of memory, but I suspect most hard hitting enemies actually have an ad closer to 3.5 (which, due to the exponential nature of the function is still 89%).

Now, granted, monsters that attack less then every 2 seconds get fairly close to a 97% chance, but those are pretty rare.



But I am picking nits. I agree with your premise, and more healers should understand the advantageous nature of Eye for an Eye, even though it sounds like a long shot, it is actually extremely likely that the debuff will work.

[Daenerys_Sedai]

Eye for an Eye is great damage mitigation in large pulls. It's like 7-10 potential debuffs for the price of 1 cast (on the tank).

[Delvish]

Eye for an Eye is great damage mitigation in large pulls. It's like 7-10 potential debuffs for the price of 1 cast (on the tank).

One instant and MP free cast that can be done while running mind you, just to add a little more awesomeness to it.

[PetiteMalFleur]

Thanks for this info!

[peaches]

Eye for an Eye, while not a great ability by itself, is GREAT when stacked up with other abilities. The trick is using it 20-30s before the big damage you're trying to prevent in the hopes the enemy(ies) get the debuff. Add Sacred Soil, Virus, and... The bard one... to the mix, and you have INSANE damage reduction.

On Garuda if I time it properly, nobody even gets to half health from reckoning. On Titan, I usually have a Summoner friend with me and we alternate Virus and Eye for Eye basically on cooldown, it can save the tank from a Mountain Buster, and greatly reduce the damage dealt by Tummults, especially if everyone is stacked in Sacred Soil. Since it's on a long-ish cooldown, its great for a WHM to have and the SCH can alternate casts in 8man content.