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  1. #21
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    faerieflare's Avatar
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    Curry Omelette
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    Kujata
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Weltende View Post
    I'm glad you brought this up, and I would like to add that you can't overwrite Regen with a weaker version of itself
    Damn, now I know why my regen sometimes has no effect on the tank. I thought it was a bug ==a"
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  2. #22
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    Exphryl Windstrider
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    Adamantoise
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Jewelfox View Post
    Hey, everyone. New WHM 50 here, still trying to wrap my head around the unwritten rules of endgame. Here's what I've gathered so far:
    • THM to 24 and ACN to 36 or GTFO.
    • Full DL before HM Garuda or Coil.
    Coil..yeah.

    Nothing before that needs Full Darklight. (For Titan I had one piece of darklight, rest AK ilvl60s and redid my stats to have more vitality so I wouldn't die after heart phase). Granted though if you are pugging everything DL is sort of a requirement so depends if you are with friends or not
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  3. #23
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    Randgrid Blomqvist
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    For those of you referring to Eye for an Eye as "a waste of resources," check this out. Also, remember it costs no MP. Free damage mitigation hardly seems like a waste.
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  4. #24
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    Faredil Chatelfort
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    Behemoth
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyChain View Post
    Swiftcast is useful, not mandatory, don't let your people die or look for a different group. :P
    What's on the arcanist at 36? Do you mean Eye-for an Eye at 34?
    "Barrier Effect: 20% chance that when barrier is struck, the striker will deal 10% less damage for 20 seconds"
    How's that even remotely required? Every 5th hit you'll receive 10% less damage. It's nice but not mandatory either.
    This is coming from someone who cleared turn 4 already. :P

    Full DL, yes for Coil, hardly for Garuda, maybe for Titan.
    Get your relic.
    I'm sorry but that is absolutely NOT the way Eye for an Eye works. There is a thread started in the Healer forum about this exact type of misinformation about the skill.
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  5. #25
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    Nazzo's Avatar
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    Gio Nazzo
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    It's a bit worrying just how many people honestly believe Eye for an Eye is a bad skill because they don't understand how it works.

    Not going to bother to explain it because it has been explained countless times already-- seems like willfull ignorance to me at this point.
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  6. #26
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    Tiri Thon
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    Goblin
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I'm going to hit 50 in a few hours and I have one question that I'm curious about. In 8 man parties, with 2 healers, how is the responsibility divided between the healers? I mean to avoid things like both of us healing the same target at the same time, etc. I never see the healers coordinating this in chat, so is it just a free for all or is there some unwritten rule?
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  7. #27
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    Mad Haytur
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    Zalera
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I would imagen it would also depend upon if you have two of one class or one of each healing class. I suspect it could go into ether, one is a tank and the other is a party healer. Could also be split into one person takes care of three people including 1 tank and the other does the same. Seems kind of hard to tell with this game. But I would imagen its probably one is a tank and the other is a party healer with the party healer using helpful spells on the tank as well.
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  8. #28
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    Tiri Thon
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    Goblin
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I appreciate your imagination, and you could very well be right. But I'd like an experienced whm to chime in on this if possible.

    I hope that doesn't sound mean Haytur, it certainly isn't meant to!
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  9. #29
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    Etoile Elysium
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    For Castrum and Praetorium, as well HM Primals, you won't need that much coordination. If one healer is new to the dungeon then you'll need to hold his hand a bit but nothing much required. Maybe a little bit in Titan HM on who will top off the tank and who will stoneskin, pre-Mountain Buster, though it's more a convenience and not a necessity.

    Coil is a different story though. For fights like Caduceus, both healers will need to coordinate and split heealing duties in the party.
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  10. #30
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 32
    Hello Mira!

    As a fresh level 50, you should start with farming AK for full (or close) set of Strategos. Now that people mostly speedrun WP, AK is actually even easier to do as a WHM. I would consider WP as a waste of time for a fresh 50 as it doesn't drop the gear you need and AK gives the same amount of Philosophy for DL.

    You can heal everything up to Garuda in full Strategos. For Titan, upgrade as many pieces as possible to DL and try to get Garuda weapon (and Darklight shield from WP to go with it). After beating Titan and getting your relic weapon, upgrade as much to DL and possible and weapon to +1 before starting Coil.

    For crossclass abilities, Swiftcast, Eye for an Eye and Virus are a must for a healer.
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    Last edited by Taika; 11-08-2013 at 07:06 PM.

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