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    Aedra's Avatar
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    Aedra Laevatein
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    Masamune
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    I've been wondering for a while ... since when do we need DL gear for garuda, WP, AK...

    People using forum lately have been spreading this a lot, and most of the ppl I've seen so far that have problem are ppl who leveling from FATE.

    Level 50 Trails & Dungeons are all about mechanics and strategies. Since you don't actually tell us what are your problems then we can't really help much. If it is strategy, then you can study and learn / discuss in a party.

    If it is a healing experiece then, I suggest go back and start doing from sunken temple up to lv50 dungeons.

    You can even doing Titan with 0 DL as long as you can cure ~700 hp and have enough hp to survive Earthen Fury, and 7 Tumults while medica2+medica.

    Oh, and on final note. You can do WP/AK/Ifrit/Garuda with all AF party + lv50 weapon.
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    Last edited by Aedra; 11-06-2013 at 01:20 PM.

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    Slark Strider
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Titan with 0 Darklight? So, you mean full Strategos set then? I can tell you that if you don't have HQ crafted, or strategos, theres no way to survive that stuff without doing completely unnecessary things. Strategos is doable for a coordinated group where some of the members are geared. For a Mor Dhona pug? No. It is not acceptable. Pugs make mistakes, they are not coordinated, and they need to overgear the encounter to make up for sloppy play. Not everyone has another 7 people who are skilled to fall back on. Also, if you have full strategos, why would you not have any darklight?
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    Last edited by Slark; 11-06-2013 at 02:31 PM.

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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Hello Mira!

    As a fresh level 50, you should start with farming AK for full (or close) set of Strategos. Now that people mostly speedrun WP, AK is actually even easier to do as a WHM. I would consider WP as a waste of time for a fresh 50 as it doesn't drop the gear you need and AK gives the same amount of Philosophy for DL.

    You can heal everything up to Garuda in full Strategos. For Titan, upgrade as many pieces as possible to DL and try to get Garuda weapon (and Darklight shield from WP to go with it). After beating Titan and getting your relic weapon, upgrade as much to DL and possible and weapon to +1 before starting Coil.

    For crossclass abilities, Swiftcast, Eye for an Eye and Virus are a must for a healer.
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    Last edited by Taika; 11-08-2013 at 07:06 PM.

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    Exphryl Windstrider
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    Adamantoise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jewelfox View Post
    Hey, everyone. New WHM 50 here, still trying to wrap my head around the unwritten rules of endgame. Here's what I've gathered so far:
    • THM to 24 and ACN to 36 or GTFO.
    • Full DL before HM Garuda or Coil.
    Coil..yeah.

    Nothing before that needs Full Darklight. (For Titan I had one piece of darklight, rest AK ilvl60s and redid my stats to have more vitality so I wouldn't die after heart phase). Granted though if you are pugging everything DL is sort of a requirement so depends if you are with friends or not
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    Randgrid Blomqvist
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    Midgardsormr
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    For those of you referring to Eye for an Eye as "a waste of resources," check this out. Also, remember it costs no MP. Free damage mitigation hardly seems like a waste.
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    Gio Nazzo
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    It's a bit worrying just how many people honestly believe Eye for an Eye is a bad skill because they don't understand how it works.

    Not going to bother to explain it because it has been explained countless times already-- seems like willfull ignorance to me at this point.
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    Tiri Thon
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    Goblin
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I'm going to hit 50 in a few hours and I have one question that I'm curious about. In 8 man parties, with 2 healers, how is the responsibility divided between the healers? I mean to avoid things like both of us healing the same target at the same time, etc. I never see the healers coordinating this in chat, so is it just a free for all or is there some unwritten rule?
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    Liadan Summerfield
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Odd View Post
    I'm going to hit 50 in a few hours and I have one question that I'm curious about. In 8 man parties, with 2 healers, how is the responsibility divided between the healers? I mean to avoid things like both of us healing the same target at the same time, etc. I never see the healers coordinating this in chat, so is it just a free for all or is there some unwritten rule?
    In general, in pugs, it's a free for all. In a static group, you're going to need to work with your fellow healer.
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    Mad Haytur
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    Zalera
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I would imagen it would also depend upon if you have two of one class or one of each healing class. I suspect it could go into ether, one is a tank and the other is a party healer. Could also be split into one person takes care of three people including 1 tank and the other does the same. Seems kind of hard to tell with this game. But I would imagen its probably one is a tank and the other is a party healer with the party healer using helpful spells on the tank as well.
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    Tiri Thon
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    Goblin
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I appreciate your imagination, and you could very well be right. But I'd like an experienced whm to chime in on this if possible.

    I hope that doesn't sound mean Haytur, it certainly isn't meant to!
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