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  1. #1
    Player
    PetiteMalFleur's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Viva Diva
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 60
    Run WP to cap you mythology tombstones each week and get the gear drops. Farm Ifrit for your primal weapon, and run the 8 man dungeons or WP for Philo and start upgrading to DL. Also replace all your low level accessories with level 48 crafted stuff. It's cheap. You're just making life harder on yourself if you don't and probably why you can't keep your party up.

    Get swiftcast and love it.
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    Last edited by PetiteMalFleur; 11-05-2013 at 07:45 PM.

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    LiadansWhisper's Avatar
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    Character
    Liadan Summerfield
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    Hi Mira,

    I notice you're on my sever. I don't know when your online times are, but I help manage a LS on Balmung for puggers who are either also RPers or friendly to RPers. We pretty much do everything up to Coils (though Titan runs are very few and far between). I should be on in a few hours (generally around Noon CST is when I get online), and if you are, poke me in-game and I can try to hook you up with some experienced tanks and help you sort out your accessories a bit.
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    Eldelphia's Avatar
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    Character
    Mexi Lostbane
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    Swiftcast is mandatory and makes life easier when you need to raise someone or cast something long mid fight.

    If you're struggling with WP then go back to CM and Praetorium and use some tomes to upgrade. Don't jump straight in to AK until you're comfortable with WP.

    WP will get you iLvl 55 gear. Make sure Proshell is up all the time, cast stoneskin on people before boss fights, make good use of regen and don't panic. Don't run forwards in WP though because you can trigger mobs inadvertently.

    WP Bosses: remove the debuff the goobbue puts on, stay out of red circles and stay at a distance. Puddings: try and make sure you stoneskin people at the start and be aware that someone will get targetted once the adds are down so they may need extra healing. Final boss: make sure no more than 3 maybe 4 adds are being killed before he uses his rancor attack and that the tank has as many protective buffs on them as possible before it hits. Be prepared to put a big cure on.
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    Weltende's Avatar
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    Walpurgis Nacht
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    If you're having issues in WP/AK it might be due to lack of familiarity with the mechanics more than with the class itself. Keeper of Halidom(WP), Psycheflayer(AK), and Anatabooga(or however it's spelled, AK) all have moves that put a debuff on the target that lowers incoming healing significantly and ideally needs to be cleansed with Esuna before you resume healing them. Tonberry King is also an awkward fight for a fresh level 50, since it's likely the first time you're going to have to precast in order to deal with spike damage. Setting the boss as your focus target (shift + F while targeting something) will let you see when troublesome moves are coming up (in the case of Tonberry King, Everyone's Grudge), allowing you time time a Cure 2 to hit just after the damage is dealt.

    Some misc. tips off the top of my head:
    -I have both WHM and SCH at 50 and I could not imagine playing either without Swiftcast, take that as you will. Eye for an Eye is a bit more niche but it is great to have (particularly when you start speedrunning, or when you reach content where every defensive cooldown helps), get it when/if you can but understand that not having it is not the end of the world by any means.
    -It's worth pointing out that weapon damage will have the highest impact of any stat on your healing output, as it's a bit unintuitive and many players don't figure it out on their own. Always go for the weapon with higher magical damage if given the option.
    -You should never cast Medica 2 back to back. Casting Medica 2 once, and then casting Medica 1 until the regen effect is about to wear off is not only much less MP intensive but also amounts to much higher sustained area healing. I still see the occasional WHM casting Medica 2 back to back in fights like Titan HM and I have to wonder if they ever actually read their ability tooltips. This only applies to fights such as Titan HM and Coil Turn 4 where there is heavy, sustained damage being done to the entire group.

    Edit:
    Quote Originally Posted by Slark View Post
    14) Make good use of Divine seal. Also, if you regen while Divine seal is up, the regen will stay as the stronger version even after divine seal fades. So try to put a fresh regen on the tank when its getting close to expiring.
    I'm glad you brought this up, and I would like to add that you can't overwrite Regen with a weaker version of itself. In other words, if you cast Regen on someone while you have Divine Seal active, you will want to wait until that Regen wears off the target completely before refreshing it-- otherwise, it will have no effect, and you will have wasted a GCD and a small chunk of MP.
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    Last edited by Weltende; 11-05-2013 at 08:19 PM.

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    faerieflare's Avatar
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    Character
    Curry Omelette
    World
    Kujata
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Weltende View Post
    I'm glad you brought this up, and I would like to add that you can't overwrite Regen with a weaker version of itself
    Damn, now I know why my regen sometimes has no effect on the tank. I thought it was a bug ==a"
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    Marionette's Avatar
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    Character
    Alexis Valeth
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    One of the biggest learning curves I found when I started those dungeons was the status effect's being thrown around. Between immunity down/strong poison on keeper, all the status under the sun on the Jelly, heavy on tonberry king, Disease on Antabolga. Disease of Psyflayer, slow/paralyze on Demon wall, it felt like I was running AV all over again. A good chunk of those abilities cripples your healing so you really need to keep an eye on for status allignments in the 50 dungeons. It makes a massive difference in how well you do, and it's often hard to realize if people don't tell you (Which they often don't)
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    Last edited by Marionette; 11-05-2013 at 09:51 PM.

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    Githiun's Avatar
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    Githiun Smallsword
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Jewelfox View Post
    [*]Full DL before HM Garuda or Coil.

    Helpful but not needed. I just downed Garuda twice in a row last night doing DF group and i'm not full DL. No, i wasn't be carried, I was absolutely keeping up with healing staying ahead of the game for being OOM doing good, no deaths except one dps who was an idiot and didn't hide.

    My gear was HQ Madman's weapon, AFChest, Gloves, Legs, Helm. DL Boots, Waist, Ring x1, Neck, Wrist, Earring.

    First run was so easy I decided to do it again, got my Garuda weapon on second run. Swiftcast would b awesome in the clutch moments where you need to get another healer up or BLM and you can use it to insta-rez(assuming you can do that right?)

    IMO Ifrit was WAY harder than Garuda.
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    thegodthatwas's Avatar
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    Xharanar Delat
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I'm a fresh 50 whm myself, but it's my second lvl 50. I had the good fortune to get a huge chuck of the healer AK gear before even hitting 50. I also pre farmed my Garuda Weapon with my blm. Now I'm not having any issues healing through WP or AK, but Ifrit was a nightmare for me as a healer. I haven't done Garuda yet as whm.
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    Darness's Avatar
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    Darness Mage
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Just a heads up on garuda hm this a normal basic stuff but i seen many not used when the "sister" spawns ads is best to used "Shroud of Saints" just to reduce your eneminity. When they show makes the tank much easier for them to agro them.

    At at all cases when i run as a whm n see another whm not used shroud to just get the eniminity away from i think is just wasting on time for the tank that "may" have trouble taking the "sister" away from healers.
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    Githiun's Avatar
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    Githiun Smallsword
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Darness View Post
    Just a heads up on garuda hm this a normal basic stuff but i seen many not used when the "sister" spawns ads is best to used "Shroud of Saints" just to reduce your eneminity. When they show makes the tank much easier for them to agro them.

    At at all cases when i run as a whm n see another whm not used shroud to just get the eniminity away from i think is just wasting on time for the tank that "may" have trouble taking the "sister" away from healers.
    Aye, my first time I almost got rocked by that. Other healer caught me before I KO'd
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