You're gonna have mixed responses to this post. Unfortunately it's the backwards mentality people have in MMORPG's. They seem to put the cart in front of the horse if you know what I am sayin. People also are less likely to help these days than they were back in the pre-WOW days of MMORPG's. Nowadays it is all about getting gear as fast as you can only to complain about the the lack of content. Ironic isn't it? What I have decided now when I enter a WP or AK run is just ask if it is meant to be a speed run, if they say yes, I either let them know I am not relic geared or leave the group and find a diff one. This of course, if I use the DF. If I am getting a group together I typically ask before entering the group if it is a speed run or not. People seem to think you HAVE to have relic for speed run, and that is not true. I am not relic and I do WP runs in 20-25 mins every day. Then again, what is fast to one is not fast to another so it is subjective as are a lot of things in MMORPG's.