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    Player
    Kevee's Avatar
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Vittorino

    "disturbed at the sight of this diabolical treason! I shalt no succumb to such petty squabbles."

    How dare you put such treason on my NAME!!! da Stache!
    First off i regularly asking for a ballad is not in my style! Nevaaaar! When i do go to such lengths to ask a BRD for Ballad is when neanderthals get themselves hit by unnecessary damage thus making me use more mana than i'd like too. In addition to mechanics or new transitions i'm not familiar with. Da stache shalt never be labeled as asking for such pity chipper tunes!!

    Yours Truly Captain Stache!
    I'm sorry, my Glorious.

    I did not mean it as an affront to you, just solely as to what I had experienced, and only on one specific encounter. I know that, through the power of the Almighty Stache, it is not a regular occurrence anywhere else.

    /bow
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    Shadowzanon's Avatar
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    Aether Flow
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Oh cool you guys are on my server, hmm why havent i have bumped into you guys yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowzanon View Post
    Oh cool you guys are on my server, hmm why havent i have bumped into you guys yet?
    You have, I've helped Kyp with a lot of things.

    I also did a few garuda runs with you just yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    You have, I've helped Kyp with a lot of things.

    I also did a few garuda runs with you just yesterday.
    Gawd seriously man my memory is horrible T.T sorry you had to deal with me XD.
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    Yenn Sylph
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    ITT: Bad players who are unable to down Twintania try to pretend problems that they aren't good enough to experience don't exist.

    I'm not sure how this works, but okay, guys. Keep it up.
    If any of you were good enough to down Twintania, you would know exactly what the problem is.

    In regards to 'lol BRD has to ballad for healers anyway,' no, we're actually skilled enough to do Twintania correctly (not powering through Death Sentence's debuff), so our healers don't need Ballad.
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Everyone runs out of resource (except BLMs).

    What are you actually trying to change?

    Either:

    1. resource is no longer a problem for anyone (I'm a fan of this approach).
    2. deal with it.

    I dunno why you think this is a problem only you have encountered.

    Also, insulting people is really not a very good way of getting them on your side.
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    Yenn Sylph
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
    Everyone runs out of resource (except BLMs).

    What are you actually trying to change?

    Either:

    1. resource is no longer a problem for anyone (I'm a fan of this approach).
    2. deal with it.

    I dunno why you think this is a problem only you have encountered.

    Also, insulting people is really not a very good way of getting them on your side.
    When a melee runs out of TP, their next Invigorate fixes it for quite a while.
    When a SMN runs out of MP, our next Aetherflow lets us put up exactly one set of DoTs, but doesn't sustain us to our next Aetherflow. Even if we use Energy Drain x3 (which massacres our DPS), we can't sustain a rotation until the next Aetherflow, or even close to it.
    Once we hit the point that we're OOM, our DPS drops off hard and stays low until the encounter is over or we get a Ballad.

    Again, in the case of Twintania, a Ballad isn't going to happen; the BRD will have used all of his MP on Foe Requiem once the final phase hits. If he has to save MP just for the SMN, then the SMN is weighing the group down where a BLM or different class wouldn't.
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    Last edited by Yenn; 11-06-2013 at 11:44 AM.

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    Apollo Dioscuri
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    Malboro
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    Pugilist Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Yenn View Post
    When a melee runs out of TP, their next Invigorate fixes it for quite a while.
    You do realize invigorate has twice the cooldown of aetherflow, right?
    And that after using invigorate, there aren't 6 free chances to restore additional TP?

    to simplify:
    Invigorate: +40% of resource
    Aetherflow x2: +40% of resource, + Potential Energy Drains

    now compare your resource efficiency with that of a physical class. You've got them by miles. Your worst skill beats all but one of my regular rotation skills.
    Monk has it better, if they ignore certain dps boosts (resource management, the thing you seem to be allergic to).
    Dragoon not so much, though they've got +50% resource on their CD instead of 40 to balance out their TP efficiency.

    Your class is not getting the shaft and is hardly at the bottom of the totem pole when it comes to resource management.
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    Last edited by ziddyt; 11-06-2013 at 04:56 PM.

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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    Dropping ruin entirely from your rotation is a 12% dps loss.

    Hardly a massive loss.

    Loss of Fester vs Energy drain is also a 450 loss per minute, or 7.5 pps. This is roughly equivalent to a 6% dps loss.

    Again, not a "massacre" of your dps.
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    Arcanis Bladewing
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    just do what I do, at 60-70% mp, I stop using RUIN II to let in non-gcd spells like fester, it's a very small dps loss, cause you are probably only missing half a second uptime every 10 seconds.
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