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    CrisGer's Avatar
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    "Cannot Use that Class" message????

    I was playing with a party member near Quarrymill and i was trying to hunt the Goblin Thugs, well for some reason suddenly i was not allowed by the game to use that class and none of my skills worked at all.

    no reason given, no idea why. had to log out of the game completely and then come back in and finally was able to use them normally but it was very strange. And frustrating.

    any one ever have this before? didnt want to post it as a bug until i asked here.

    they were doing the emergency maintenance tonight and my party member had trouble using the warping.... teleport...so maybe there were bugs happening in the game? any ideas?
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    Sounds like the maintenance might have interfered. So far I had never any problems changing classes
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    Gadzi Hajaz
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    I have had issues with gear sets not equipping if I have removed something from the armoury chest but never not being able to use a class for no reason. That is an odd glitch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gadzi_h View Post
    I have had issues with gear sets not equipping if I have removed something from the armoury chest but never not being able to use a class for no reason. That is an odd glitch.
    Same here. If one item of a created set is missing it won't equip anything of said set. I find the whole set system quite bad. I mean items are not listed as being part of a set for instance. So it's very easy to sell/store an item somewhere without realizing it belongs to a set. And making that set unequipable.
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    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by gadzi_h View Post
    I have had issues with gear sets not equipping if I have removed something from the armoury chest
    This is a design choice, not a bug. I suspect it would be far more resource intensive to search your inventory for an set item rather than the armoury chest. This is an incredibly minor inconvenience when it (rarely) happens, so I don't support changing it unless it can be done without impacting server load.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elysaine View Post
    Same here. If one item of a created set is missing it won't equip anything of said set. I find the whole set system quite bad. I mean items are not listed as being part of a set for instance. So it's very easy to sell/store an item somewhere without realizing it belongs to a set. And making that set unequipable.
    The only time a set won't be equipped is when you are missing the primary weapon, which should be obvious is not a bug. Any other missing piece from a set will result in a partially equipped set and a message indicating such. Heck, even if one of the pieces was dyed a different colour, it still equips it and lets you know it equipped a different colour item.

    That said, to help out in the rare cases someone is stupid enough to sell their primary weapon, a better design choice would be able to switch items out of a set via the 'Display Set' menu by right-clicking on the item in the list. Right-click would give the option to 'Replace Item,' clicking on it would bring up a window similar to the 'Hand Over' window with a slot you can drag your new chosen item into as a replacement.

    To the OP: That sounds like a bug to me, since it resolved itself upon re-logging. If you do submit a bug report, try to include as much detail as possible. E.g. which class, which abilities you tried to use, if you had changed classes or it just started not working, what actions you had done right before it stopped working, etc.
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    Last edited by Mhaeric; 11-05-2013 at 04:28 PM.

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    Did you just finish a battle and we're trying to change classes before the server had fully registered the battle as complete? Naturally you can't switch classes while in combat so it's possible there might have been a bit of lag between your client and the server which resulted in the server still believing you were in battle for a few seconds more when in fact it had finished.

    This happens to me all the time, particularly after just finishing a FATE, as I find other functions are often locked when in battle and don't always update straight away (such as being able to ride a mount). All you can really do is just wait a little bit for the server to 'catch up' and try again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    The only time a set won't be equipped is when you are missing the primary weapon, which should be obvious is not a bug.
    Come to think of it it was the primary weapon. I did get a warning for having a hat of the wrong color equip on a crafter but everything did equip. Even something like a number in the lower right section of the items icon indicating set number would be a huge advantage. At least that way you would know that item did belong to a given set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysaine View Post
    If one item of a created set is missing it won't equip anything of said set.
    It's only when the weapon from the set is missing.
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    First off, my appologies to the OP that this post pertains entirely to a somewhat off-topic side conversation. I have no useful insight into the original issue.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    This is a design choice, not a bug. I suspect it would be far more resource intensive to search your inventory for an set item rather than the armoury chest.
    Searching your inventory wouldn't even help, at least not very often, as most commonly the missing item has been sold or converted.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    The only time a set won't be equipped is when you are missing the primary weapon, which should be obvious is not a bug. Any other missing piece from a set will result in a partially equipped set and a message indicating such. Heck, even if one of the pieces was dyed a different colour, it still equips it and lets you know it equipped a different colour item.
    I know if a piece is dyed a different color it will just give a warning, but still equip, but I'm pretty sure any piece being missing will cause it not to equip anything from the set. I've had a gear set fail once because I was missing the necklace. I'd replaced a NQ necklace with a HQ equivalent, updated the gear set I was using at the time, and sold the old NQ one before realizing it was also used in another gear set I hadn't updated.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    That said, to help out in the rare cases someone is stupid enough to sell their primary weapon, a better design choice would be able to switch items out of a set via the 'Display Set' menu by right-clicking on the item in the list. Right-click would give the option to 'Replace Item,' clicking on it would bring up a window similar to the 'Hand Over' window with a slot you can drag your new chosen item into as a replacement.
    Well, as someone who's done this more than once, I find your characterization of it as "stupid" a bit presumptuous. Primary weapons are replaced every two or three levels, and it's the one item that we clearly know will never be useful for another class later, so is completely obsolete as soon as it's replaced. It's easy enough to replace your weapon, sell or convert the old one, and forget to update your gear sets to match. (The last time this happened to me, I'd replaced my THM wand and converted the old one. I did, in fact, remember to update my main THM gear set, but had forgotten that my cosmetic gear set with the striped swimsuit had also included the THM wand.)

    That said, I do like your solution to the problem. I wish they'd just let us replace the missing item from the gear set rather than having to re-create the gear set from scratch.


    Quote Originally Posted by gadzi_h View Post
    Even something like a number in the lower right section of the items icon indicating set number would be a huge advantage. At least that way you would know that item did belong to a given set.
    A number of the set wouldn't work, as some items will be part of multiple sets. (Consider an accessory that boosts craftsmanship, for instance. If your crafting classes are near enough the same level to all use it, it's likely to be part of eight different gear sets, one for each crafting class.) I would, however, very much like to see them add some mark on the gear's icon indicating that it's part of a set. Even if we need to sort out for ourselves which set or sets it belongs to, at least we'd know to do so before selling or converting it.
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    As best i can recall, here is what happened, i was hunting for the Conjurer hunting log and needed to get the Goblins. they are tough, so i asked a friend to help me, she was a level 50 and i was a level 22, when we partied up and I attacked teh goblin or tried to none of my skills would work. I could do nothing. The message said: cannot use that class...or it may have said Cannot use that skill with this class. anyway it was just my normal skills, i didnt change anyting, was tryhing to use the stone. well i tried with my gladiator and it worked fine. went back to the conjurer and same thing. we unpartied same thing. she changed to a lower level conjuer too, same thing for me. Cant use any skills.

    I logged out and logged back, and still could not use it. then for some reason, it changed.

    no changes in my gear, no removeal of anything. Just that weird message.

    Eventually i was able to fight gain and we downed the goblins. No idea why this happened.

    and Reiterpallasch thanks for posting but i have you on my ignore list sadly as you were very mean to me about asking for advice on Party chat and said you thought i was just another higher level player who only did FATES ...when i had worked very hard doing everything and had only been shy about asking about that. I try my hardest and try to help others but i dont tolerate nastyness sorry. So thanks for posting but until i get an appology from you i wont be reading any of your posts.
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