Issues with Coil: Statics v. The Rest of Us

[Noahlimits]

Selling Coil kills
First, people buy to destroy their gameplay? Really, who cares.

Yoshi HIMSELF said this is a problem. It's making items that are supposed to be supreme (such as relic) as common as a grand company weapon. And it's likely why there is a lock out on coil. It effectively makes the game pay2win, and encourages people using RMT to get gil.

[Neroh]

I don't see a problem with Coil being in the Duty Finder. If it's meant to be challenging, surely grouping random people together with no chemistry whatsoever will result in many, many groups failing...but at least it gives us a chance to run it.

[Tremara]

Maybe I get old but what is so hard to build a party for Coil? You did it so many times in other games too. That's a way to find friends. So stop relying on DF and socialize with the ppl around you.

Also a lot of ppl in this thread don't get the meaning of Multiplayer ... it doesn't describe the aspect of pressing a button, get a party randomly and maybe (but really just maybe) recognize that the other 3/7 ppl in party aren't just NPC running along.

PS: This is my opinion. Neither you have to agree nor it was meant to offend anyone. (Just to be on the safe side )

[Fire-Dragon-DoL]

Yoshi HIMSELF said this is a problem. It's making items that are supposed to be supreme (such as relic) as common as a grand company weapon. And it's likely why there is a lock out on coil. It effectively makes the game pay2win, and encourages people using RMT to get gil.

People like this can be banned, it's not a pay2win, you'll get your relic for some days with money bought through RMT, you'll get banned. It's not a pay2win in that way.

Yea people can still buy a relic but being this an MMORPG without a HUGE "roleplay" side (I have seen roleplay games and you usually take more time MOVING toward a dungeon, like 1 hour, than doing the dungeon itself), there isn't a big problem if there are people with a lot of relics. I mean, relic is still worth... I don't know, X hours of play, if you think about it, people who got it probably have played enough or got it through RMT and will be banned. The game is out since august, it's the end of november and there are people playing 6 hours/day, that's 540 hours, consider 500 to be polite, do you really think that any elite-thing shouldn't be already in players hand? :P

Maybe I get old but what is so hard to build a party for Coil? You did it so many times in other games too. That's a way to find friends. So stop relying on DF and socialize with the ppl around you.

Also a lot of ppl in this thread don't get the meaning of Multiplayer ... it doesn't describe the aspect of pressing a button, get a party randomly and maybe (but really just maybe) recognize that the other 3/7 ppl in party aren't just NPC running along.

PS: This is my opinion. Neither you have to agree nor it was meant to offend anyone. (Just to be on the safe side )

Sorry I think you miss the main point, here I'm complaining by the fact that I have various friends and I'm stuck with only one group of coil. I don't care if it's added to dutyfinder or not, I want to play it with multiple friends and I cannot do it.

[Tremara]

Sorry I think you miss the main point, here I'm complaining by the fact that I have various friends and I'm stuck with only one group of coil. I don't care if it's added to dutyfinder or not, I want to play it with multiple friends and I cannot do it.

Well, I checked the first post again (to be on the safe side) and no, I don't think I missed the point. The OP wants that Coil is enabled for DF because it's too hard to build parties. I think you missed that I wasn't talking about your post - otherwise I would have quoted it.

- Enable DF functionality for Coil, preferrably with some kind of gear check

[Fire-Dragon-DoL]

Mh ok, but he also mentioned that he wants loot lockout and not complete lockout like now. Also, a dungeon should be hard because of its difficulty, not because of its difficulty to join, I don't get what's the problem with duty finding it, if it's well done, no one will defeat it on duty finder, so no problem.

[NightWrath]

Man just stop it, a new party system is about to coil in patch, with will help a lot the party make so chill.