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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkhaund View Post
    wel.. what if for exampole... there start being a noticeable difference hwere PC players have features and stuff that give a big edge over ps3?
    Isn't it already here?
    it is called standard hotbars and the possibility to use both standard hotbars and cross-hotbar on the PC.

    And another feature that PC would have and PS3/PS4 not are user-created add-ons


    Since it’s 98% I’m guessing it’s pretty much the same, how about the addons?
    I’m guessing on the PC version you can freely add addons but I would like to know how the PS4 will address the addons.
    Just like the PS3, the PS4 needs to follow the software development guidelines set by the platformer Sony Computer Entertainment. We cannot release addons software on the XIV that doesn’t go through this guideline checks. Therefore, you will not be able to use user created addon’s on the PS3 and the PS4.

    As for methods to officially address popular addon features, instead of individual addon distribution, we are thinking to have the development team release them as an additional feature and deliver though patches
    So, where in the UI limit the PS3 the PC?
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    Last edited by Felis; 11-05-2013 at 08:55 AM.

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    I swear, sometimes I think you people actively look for problems just so you can have something to bitch about. So the PS3 is reaching it's limits, big surprise there, it's a 7 year old system. What did you think was going to happen when you try running state of the art software on an old piece of hardware? Just bite the bullet and cease the incessant complaining, February is not that far away.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allyra View Post
    Except the dev team on ffxi explicitly wanted to keep both versions the same, whereas the dev team for 14 have stated several times in the past they don't care about adding things to the pc version that the ps3 version won't have.


    people need to stop comparing the two as the team's goals for the two are completely different.
    I guess when my x4 25 Bags become one 100 bag that can auto-sort, I'll believe this.

    Most recent update is that the Add-ons are now pushed back 6 months instead of the PS4 release, so we can look forward to it in about a years time..
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    They are already limiting the PC interface due to PS3 limitations.

    1. See the dev post on why items are shown only with icons and no option with even a text-based list.
    2. See the dev response on why our bag has to be displayed in tabs instead of everything in one go.

    However it is perhaps not strictly accurate to say that PS3 is limiting PC. For #1 above, it is indeed PS3 limitations. For #2 above, though, it is because they want the game to run fine on 1280x720, hence everything must fit in that small space, even if you have 2550x1440. They simply don't care.

    They do not allow better hardware to provide better functionality. Everyone is allowed only that which the worst spec can handle.
    Time limitation, not PS3 limitation

    I think during beta Minagawa-san said they were going to implement this for Windows versions.
    We can’t check the beta forums no more, but I think there are lots of tasks remaining.
    Yes. There is a lot of things we would like to do but haven’t gotten around yet.
    Like the 100 item display, or text base item display is still in the tasks. It hurts to not be able to announce the release timing at this time, but please wait until they get addressed.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1520854
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    and with out console players there would be no final fantasy 14. the whole series would of died years ago if not for console users. it is the playstation (and formerly nintendo) players that made final fantasy a success.
    this whole blame ps3 propaganda is nothing more than a witch hunt gone stale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Time limitation, not PS3 limitation
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1520854
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1173638

    There are two main reasons why we've made it so items in your inventory are displayed as an icon.
    We want to maximize the display without taking up too much of the screen.
    For ARR, displaying an icon uses way less memory than displaying a name.

    Due to these reasons, we've adopted an icon display method for certain item display windows. We have a text-based method on our task list, but the timing for this is currently undecided.
    The reason was both memory and display resolution. Both are shortcomings of the PS3 platform. (PS3 runs the game in 720p.)
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allyra View Post
    Except the dev team on ffxi explicitly wanted to keep both versions the same, whereas the dev team for 14 have stated several times in the past they don't care about adding things to the pc version that the ps3 version won't have.


    people need to stop comparing the two as the team's goals for the two are completely different.
    My only real concern is that they'll hold up releasing PC content while they make it work (when possible) for PS3. If PS3 version is gonna hold up content releases then let the ps3 version catch up later.


    I don't really care if SE supports PS3 or not so long as it doesn't affect PC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrionInerghem View Post
    I guess when my x4 25 Bags become one 100 bag that can auto-sort, I'll believe this.
    This makes no sense. ffxi had this so it's not like they changed it to save space.

    Prove that they specifically said multiple bags were required for the ps3 limited memory, otherwise you are just making stuff up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post


    The reason was both memory and display resolution. Both are shortcomings of the PS3 platform. (PS3 runs the game in 720p.)
    Because clearly no PC could ever suffer these kinds of limitations, amirite?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razla View Post
    My FC runs Titan HM all the time, and if it is one of our usual carry setups, at least half of us (the tank, me, and two other DPS), sometimes more, are all on the PS3 with no problems. It's more likely that the players are having a dodging/rotation problem. While I know legitimate lagging issues exist, the thing with Titan is that you have to anticipate and start moving in advance. Reacting, especially if you aren't very familiar with the fight, will probably result in getting smooshed.
    Get them Razla!

    Our FC is loaded with PS3 players and we do just fine thank you.
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