Patch Notes should be put up earlier

[AshTS]

I live on the west coast, lunch time ^^ Good try on the assumption though

Damn you, lunch time. Damn you.

When you say a "test server" you have to be specific, because it's common sense MMOs employ test servers. If you mean PLAYER test servers, you have to say as such. I guess this is why, despite living in an english country, many people still prefer their own language over English, since there seems to be a rule that you automatically "know" they mean something other than they say.

Everyone else in the thread knew what he was talking about. Everyone except for you.

[Elexia]

Everyone else in the thread knew what he was talking about. Everyone except for you.

Not everyone is a native English speaker, my language you don't say one thing when you mean another.

[AshTS]

Not everyone is a native English speaker, my language you don't say one thing when you mean another.

You honestly can't expect players that speak English alter their way of speaking just in case someone who can't grasp the language entirely might be about? That's pretty geocentric and I'm American. We know a little something about geocentricity.

[Jennestia]

It seems people want things just to have them. All MMOs have internal test servers so opening a brand new server for the sake of "every other MMO has a public test server" is pretty pointless and a waste of resources when they have so much more to worry about.

You honestly can't expect players that speak English alter their way of speaking just in case someone who can't grasp the language entirely might be about? That's pretty geocentric and I'm American. We know a little something about geocentricity.

Before you go jumping on people you can't assume everyone is native English speaking and know the nuances of the language, but as you say...

[Xeno]

I liked when they had a rough outline the week before. I think they did that for like 1.15 and 1.16 or something like that. Didn't give away any major details so no one could mess with economy. Overall though, I think it's a just a waste of translation time and they should just put up the one patch notes when the servers go down. It's only 1:30 away, just hold your horses :P

[Jennestia]

I liked when they had a rough outline the week before. I think they did that for like 1.15 and 1.16 or something like that. Didn't give away any major details so no one could mess with economy. Overall though, I think it's a just a waste of translation time and they should just put up the one patch notes when the servers go down. It's only 1:30 away, just hold your horses :P

Yeah; Sadly people complained about that because they weren't "in depth" lol.

[AshTS]

It seems people want things just to have them. All MMOs have internal test servers so opening a brand new server for the sake of "every other MMO has a public test server" is pretty pointless and a waste of resources when they have so much more to worry about.

Only they don't have more to worry about. Nothing is more important than popular opinion of their product. And much like Beta tests (And what XIV did with Beta testing) you want to be able to increase build up for your product. I understand people are playing for free right now, but playing future builds gets more people hooked than you obviously realize. I doubt it happens honestly, but that's why it's important anyhow.

Before you go jumping on people you can't assume everyone is native English speaking and know the nuances of the language, but as you say...

Yes. Yes I can. If I'm on an English board, I am going to assume everyone can speak English well enough to understand hinted things and slang. I think you speak Japanese natively? If I was on a Japanese board and I missed a reference or misunderstood something, I would hardly blame you for my lack of knowledge on the language. It would be my fault entirely.

[SAMINUS]

You honestly can't expect players that speak English alter their way of speaking just in case someone who can't grasp the language entirely might be about? That's pretty geocentric and I'm American. We know a little something about geocentricity.

When I worked in Tokyo-Roppongi Hills, we had to take mandatory language classes to learn Japanese. From my experience, the language is very linear when talking about a topic, deviation causes confusion. I think as English speakers, we are used to deviating, going off on tangeants during conversation, so we are accustomed to it. Maybe SE just needs more translators.

[AshTS]

When I worked in Tokyo-Roppongi Hills, we had to take mandatory language classes to learn Japanese. From my experience, the language is very linear when talking about a topic, deviation causes confusion. I think as English speakers, we are used to deviating, going off on tangeants during conversation, so we are accustomed to it. Maybe SE just needs more translators

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Could be. A lot of slang I never understood learning Spanish either for that matter.

Also, we have turned this thread into a MONSTER. My 2 cents is a lot of this game is horribly broken. Horribly. However, I like the timing on the patch notes. I like looking forward to it during the downtime. That's just me. And from people that have seen me post in other places, I am all about change for this game.

[SAMINUS]

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Could be. A lot of slang I never understood learning Spanish either for that matter.

Also, we have turned this thread into a MONSTER. My 2 cents is a lot of this game is horribly broken. Horribly. However, I like the timing on the patch notes. I like looking forward to it during the downtime. That's just me. And from people that have seen me post in other places, I am all about change for this game.

I am just waiting for something more to start playing again, this is the first MMO I have ever played, so I feel a bit let down. Well lunch is up, cya later.