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    NefGP's Avatar
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    Dante Goldenpaws
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    Excalibur
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    Internal Release & Crit Rate

    So have any of you fancy math folk been able to determine exactly how this skill works?

    It says +20% CHR, however there's no clear indication if that's a flat +20 to whatever your existing chance is, or if it's 20% of that chance i.e. if your current crit rate is only 10%, then it rises to 12% with the skill active (I don't think it's the latter but confirmation would be nice).
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    Powercow Cowcow
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    It's a 20% boost to your overall chance; if you have 10% crit and you use IR, you have a 30% chance to crit an opponent.
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Powercow is correct. As there are many skills that affect the stats in the status window, take bards dex/acc buff for example. When using IR The numbers in the status window do not change. As a monk we get 30% more chance to crit. You can see/feel the difference.
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    Yvaine Isaulde
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    Hmm. It seems that everything in this game is Additive and not Multiplicative.

    Similar to how Steady Hand affects crafting.
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    If it was multiplicative it would be horrendous!

    And ps most damage increases are multiplicative.
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    I also was convinced you get an extra 30% chance to crit for a long time. But read the tooltip correctly, it says: Increases critical hit rate by 30%. Duration 15s.

    Crit hit rate, not critical chance % >_<. If you have 430 crit hit rate.. with an extra 30% it increases to 559. If you have a idk 12% chance to crit, it increases to idk 18 to 22% maybe


    You can have a secure crit as Dragoon often with life surge. And you do not crit so often with Internal release to make it for an extra 30% chance.
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    Last edited by MagoArcano; 11-01-2013 at 01:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagoArcano View Post
    I also was convinced you get an extra 30% chance to crit for a long time. But read the tooltip correctly, it says: Increases critical hit rate by 30%. Duration 15s.

    Crit hit rate, not critical chance % >_<. If you have 430 crit hit rate.. with an extra 30% it increases to 559. If you have a idk 12% chance to crit, it increases to idk 18 to 20% maybe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    Powercow is correct. As there are many skills that affect the stats in the status window, take bards dex/acc buff for example. When using IR The numbers in the status window do not change. As a monk we get 30% more chance to crit. You can see/feel the difference.
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    Yvaine Isaulde
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagoArcano View Post
    I also was convinced you get an extra 30% chance to crit for a long time. But read the tooltip correctly, it says: Increases critical hit rate by 30%. Duration 15s.

    Crit hit rate, not critical chance % >_<. If you have 430 crit hit rate.. with an extra 30% it increases to 559. If you have a idk 12% chance to crit, it increases to idk 18 to 22% maybe


    You can have a secure crit as Dragoon often with life surge. And you do not crit so often with Internal release to make it for an extra 30% chance.
    Crit hit rate = Crit chance.
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    Sir Biggus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorauku View Post
    Crit hit rate = Crit chance.
    Wrong. Crit HIT rate =/= Crit chance

    This should be helpful http://valk.dancing-mad.com/?page_id=202
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