Vanya Silk and requirements for crafted gear that make no sense.

[Telosol]

Greetings,

I just thought I would give feedback on my thoughts about the end game crafting, specifically for Weaving. In a nutshell, after I got my WHM to 50, I decided to level Weaving to 50. It was a long process and, obviously, a lot of work. A LOT of work. After, I was so excited to see the 1 and 2 star quality appear before me. I know it would be no small task to craft these, especially with the 347 Craftsmanship and 318 Control requirements, which I understood. This goes on to explain the main problem. I will use the Vanya Robe of Healing as my example, since this is what I was going for. First you need 2 Twinthread and 9 Potash. Efficiently speaking, 1 Potash costs 125 Allagan Tomestone of Philosophy which sums to 1125 Allagan Tomestones of Philosophy. This is just to make the 1 silk.

[Telosol]

Then you have to make the Robe Lining which costs another 2 Twinthread. When you have this, you can craft the healing robe with another 2 Twinthread, 1 Rose Gold Nugget, and 1 Silver Ingot. So after everything, it costs 6 Twinthread, 9 Potash, 1 Rose Gold Nugget, and 1 Silver Ingot, 3 Lightning Clusters, and 2 Wind Clusters..to make a robe that is Item Level 70 (green). The Darklight Cowl of Healing (blue) is Item Level 70, covers both head and chest, and costs 1320 Allagan Tomestones of Philosophy. I am not going to go into the cluster costs, unless you took the time to get your gathering to 50 as well. I just ask: How does this make any sense and what is the purpose of this?

[Ksenia]

Square has gone out of their way to make crafting unattractive and nobody has really been able to put a finger on why.

[Thorauku]

Oh wow, I never really thought that someone will question and compare i70 item to Darklight, when infact that i70 is far more superior than Darklight when it comes to most of the class.

Darklight Cowl stats are pathetic compared to the Vanya just so you know.

[Liger]

Just to let you know so you would not be surprised when you level up other crafting jobs, there are items, specially accessories, that would cost 18 animal Fat or coke or.. and all these items cost 125 Tomestones ><. I know it will take forever to make one, but it worth it and it is not hard to HQ.

let say for example a Gryphonskin ring, a HQ ring Has +9str, +9 Dex +12 Acc and +9 Sp. you can still meld Vit, Det, Crt and parry materia to it. So in short a melded HQ ring can easly be compared to a Lvl 90 one!
but then again you can either use the 2250 Tomes you worked so hard on to get 4-5 DL accessory pieces or use it all for 1 item!

[Telosol]

Oh wow, I never really thought that someone will question and compare i70 item to Darklight, when infact that i70 is far more superior than Darklight when it comes to most of the class.

Darklight Cowl stats are pathetic compared to the Vanya just so you know.

Not enough to warrant the cost. This is the point I am making.

[Thorauku]

Not enough to warrant the cost. This is the point I am making.

Tell me more about it, how is it not enough when you can overmeld it with 5 materias? Humhum~

Edit:
If there's something that makes no sense in crafting, it's the 18 tome mats which really doesn't justify the required mats for it and makes no sense at all.

[Telosol]

Just to let you know so you would not be surprised when you level up other crafting jobs, there are items, specially accessories, that would cost 18 animal Fat or coke or.. and all these items cost 125 Tomestones ><. I know it will take forever to make one, but it worth it and it is not hard to HQ.

let say for example a Gryphonskin ring, a HQ ring Has +9str, +9 Dex +12 Acc and +9 Sp. you can still meld Vit, Det, Crt and parry materia to it. So in short a melded HQ ring can easly be compared to a Lvl 90 one!
but then again you can either use the 2250 Tomes you worked so hard on to get 4-5 DL accessory pieces or use it all for 1 item!

I definitely agree. HQ crafting should ALWAYS have the advantage, but, as you said, look at what you can get to progress with the amount of tomestones.

[Laryndra]

Not enough to warrant the cost. This is the point I am making.

More and more people are replacing Darklight with crafted gear. Why? Because it makes a huge difference end game. I never bothered with darklight and i crafted sets for both DRG/MNK. Was it expensive? yes.. But it was well worth it.

[LiadansWhisper]

Not enough to warrant the cost. This is the point I am making.

Disagree. I've picked up both the Vanya chest for my WHM and the Vanya Hat for my SCH. I consider it money well spent.