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    Rude players and extremely long queues for starter dungeons...

    Yesterday, I heard a person shouting about a 4.5 queue wait for Sastasha (1st dungeon). He was a Level 17 archer. Because I felt sorry for him, I convinced my FC mates to help with secondary classes to help the poor guy (then brought him into our FC so he can get more help in the future...)

    What really annoys me is people were laughing at low level characters waiting in queue for sastasha and toto-rak...

    Why is it that so few people are willing to help with the Lower Level dungeons? How can we get new players when nobody is helping new players through the dungeons? Does anyone else out there help people, or am I a fool for being so kind-hearted...?
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    Last edited by Johnist; 11-04-2013 at 04:16 AM.

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    Er... there's no incentive to queue up for lowbie dungeons, so if there is indeed a massive wait time now that's on the developers for making the early dungeons a required part of the story.

    Free companies are the best solution, I don't really think it's rude a bunch of strangers wouldn't respond to a shout that they don't need. Only thing I really derived from this thread is you should probably get over yourself with the "everybody is rude by default and i am kind-hearted" thing.
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    Player Arriverderci's Avatar
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    I don't feel like it.
    Just being honest here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IvoryFox View Post
    Er... there's no incentive to queue up for lowbie dungeons, so if there is indeed a massive wait time now that's on the developers for making the early dungeons a required part of the story.
    ...
    Only thing I really derived from this thread is you should probably get over yourself.
    And this is the sort of elitist response that mkes me think the poster is one who would mock and laugh at those waiting.

    Dungeons TRAIN you how to properly use your class. Dungeon XP is getting boosted in 2.1 so the DEVs are aware of it and are indeed working to balance it out. Also, Dungeons reward you with chance Aetheria / Rare gear you can turn in for seals... so your point is absolutely nullified. Leveling up alternate classes is best done with dungeons at the appropriate levels so you can train yourself to actually know how to run the class.
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    Player Arriverderci's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnist View Post
    And this is the sort of elitist response that mkes me think the poster is one who would mock and laugh at those waiting.

    Dungeons TRAIN you how to properly use your class. Dungeon XP is getting boosted in 2.1 so the DEVs are aware of it and are indeed working to balance it out. Also, Dungeons reward you with chance Aetheria / Rare gear you can turn in for seals... so your point is absolutely nullified. Leveling up alternate classes is best done with dungeons at the appropriate levels so you can train yourself to actually know how to run the class.
    They are putting it where that they add Tome's in for the lower levels that way everyone can just go ahead and join a random dungeons of the lower levels.
    - New peoples progress.
    - We get tomes.

    At least this is a good thing. They always make it where lower dungeons in MMO's are just collecting dust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IvoryFox View Post
    I don't really think it's rude a bunch of strangers wouldn't respond to a shout that they don't need. Only thing I really derived from this thread is you should probably get over yourself with the "everybody is rude by default and i am kind-hearted" thing.
    They didn't say that. They said people were laughing at them just because they were queuing for low-level dungeons. Which yes, is very rude.

    However I'd have to agree with others that there really is no incentive to help. Sure, doing it as a sign of helpfulness and kindness is great. But in the very first reply in your thread you got someone telling you to get over yourself and complaining because you dared to make a thread. So clearly kindness doesn't go hand in hand with this community too well.
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    Terius Palemoon
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    I'm saving my WAR for the boost in 2.1. I want to learn how to tank through dungeons, not fate spam and learn at 50 lol.
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    Yeah, I help low lvl member's and it is true there is no incentive but I still help the low level guy. Some people just think also that, they are to good for everyone else, that they are elite to everyone else (they got that rock on their shoulders) that they are better than everyone else. So, it is not really about helping, but i think more about "I am better than you" aspect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnist View Post
    And this is the sort of elitist response that mkes me think the poster is one who would mock and laugh at those waiting.
    How on earth was my response elitist? If anything that's you with your "I'm so kind" complex. Low level LFD wait times (if they are indeed longer than max level dungeons) have zero incentive for a max level player, why would anyone queue up for them? I think the point completely went over your head. You edited in the laughed at part after (or during) my response anyway. I don't condone the behavior of those people. You really are full of yourself, "everyone is elitist, everyone is rude, i am jesus incarnate!" blahblahblah. I'll gladly help an FC member with a low level dungeon run. That's what FC's are for.

    Quote Originally Posted by TeganLaron View Post
    They didn't say that. They said people were laughing at them just because they were queuing for low-level dungeons. Which yes, is very rude.
    I agree completely, but that wasn't in the initial post.
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    Last edited by IvoryFox; 11-04-2013 at 04:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnist View Post
    elitist response
    Don't use words you don't understand. Also your entire argument is one big fallacy.
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