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  1. #21
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    Norack's Avatar
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    Norack Sunstorm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reslin View Post
    All humans at some point will take something they don't need when they're right next to someone who clearly does need it? Sorry, I haven't done this and I'm not a liar. If someone tells me "I need this." and they clearly do need it (it's a need not a want) and I myself am not in need of said item/thing. I'm not going to take it. I've bought groceries, walked out of the grocery store, saw someone who was homeless and gave them some of the food I paid for.
    Sorry but one example out of your life isn't going to cut it. Unless u give me the minutes of your entire life and let people parse it you have no case.

    I have done good things in my life to, does that make me an angel?

    If a mass murderer gives a homeless person something to eat, should he be immediately forgiven and revered as a good person?
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    Tegan Laron
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrhn View Post
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    Who says they won't use it? How do you know? I use my Ifrit and Titan weapons just as much as my Relic. Plus you're saying it's greedy to want a relic and primal weapon...when that's the exact reason you're there. If you already have a Relic (or a +1 I'm guessing) why do you need a primal weapon? The person on their relic quest can use that weapon to get their 900 tomes quicker, what are you using it for? You are in fact the one who will probably never use it, not them.
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  3. #23
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    Myrhn Shirayuki
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TeganLaron View Post
    Who says they won't use it? How do you know? I use my Ifrit and Titan weapons just as much as my Relic. Plus you're saying it's greedy to want a relic and primal weapon...when that's the exact reason you're there. If you already have a Relic (or a +1 I'm guessing) why do you need a primal weapon? The person on their relic quest can use that weapon to get their 900 tomes quicker, what are you using it for? You are in fact the one who will probably never use it, not them.
    I dont even need on titan fights because i allways go as WHM and I have a relic+1. Also I say probably wont use it. So now i'm the greedy because i can't gear my other 50s with titan weapons because the people that are getting a relic wont let me even a chance to get the drop.
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    Kazic Zeran
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    I like to get the primal weapons if I can, I have the Relic+1, I just want them for future vanity slots, BUT, if someone actually needs it as an upgrade I will gladly pass.
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  5. #25
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    Amyas Leigh
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrhn View Post
    I dont even need on titan fights because i allways go as WHM and I have a relic+1. Also I say probably wont use it. So now i'm the greedy because i can't gear my other 50s with titan weapons because the people that are getting a relic wont let me even a chance to get the drop.
    Just fyi, Garuda weps are equal to the titan ones, save for slightly different stats (teensy bit more parry, determ, and earth resis on titan, wind resist, skill speed and faster auto attack on garuda) that don't really matter that much. (ruda ones actually sell to an npc for more, which is crazy) Can't we all agree we want Titan weps because they look bada**?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nowhere2Be View Post
    I like to get the primal weapons if I can, I have the Relic+1, I just want them for future vanity slots, BUT, if someone actually needs it as an upgrade I will gladly pass.
    Same, I won't even roll greed if someone pipes up and says they need it for an alt, even though I kinda do too because I have nearly all jobs up and mainly using ltn weps for all but two. If they're bold enough to say they need it, they'll most likely use it more than I would.
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    Last edited by Amyas; 11-04-2013 at 07:07 AM.

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    Player TeganLaron's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrhn View Post
    I dont even need on titan fights because i allways go as WHM and I have a relic+1. Also I say probably wont use it. So now i'm the greedy because i can't gear my other 50s with titan weapons because the people that are getting a relic wont let me even a chance to get the drop.
    Ridiculous hypocrisy. You want the Titan weapons? Then actually earn them in the class you're getting them for. I assumed all this time you meant you had lost out to other WHMs (or whatever class you are) but instead you're just collecting the weapons for classes you're not even playing. They deserve the relic/primal weapon combo just as much as you do. If not more so as they are actually playing that class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrhn View Post
    I dont even need on titan fights because i allways go as WHM and I have a relic+1. Also I say probably wont use it. So now i'm the greedy because i can't gear my other 50s with titan weapons because the people that are getting a relic wont let me even a chance to get the drop.
    Really? You have a chance to get a drop but you lose for whatever reason or some one needs on it. So basicly you DONT want to wait, you want it NOW. Im sorry in regards to primal weapons some if not a lot of players collect them. The yare doing nothing wrong by needed, they are doing nothing wrong by greeding. Now lets see there are 3 other primals so... why dont you split your time up and farm those as well? It is not greed because those players need on something regardless if they use it or not, some collect them and I dont see an issue with that. Also if you dont have the job leveled or if it is not 50 why the hell are you crying about it?
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  8. #28
    Player alhandra's Avatar
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    Alhandra Starbreeze
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    you dont have to justify rolling greed. if the option is there, take it. by that same token, people shouldn't be dicks and roll need on something unless they "actually" need it. if you just plan on turning it in for seals or spiritbonding it then be nice guy and let someone who will actually use it as an upgrade have it. other than that, its free game. the only advice i can give is dont rely on the DF to get loot, if you are in a DF group just expect people to need on stuff cuz they can not because they need
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  9. #29
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    Pharzyr Catro
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Norack View Post
    Sorry but one example out of your life isn't going to cut it. Unless u give me the minutes of your entire life and let people parse it you have no case.

    I have done good things in my life to, does that make me an angel?

    If a mass murderer gives a homeless person something to eat, should he be immediately forgiven and revered as a good person?
    I'm no angel but at the same time I don't take something someone else needs. Sorry sounds like a case of "I'm greedy so I'm going to automatically assume that everyone is like me because it's an easy way to justify my behavior." You do realize that sociopaths/psychopaths have used "Human nature." as a justification throughout history, right? Even going as far as to claim that everyone is just like them. I'm done here I'm not going to go off topic with an argument over this.
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    Last edited by Reslin; 11-04-2013 at 07:59 AM.

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    Than Mazus
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeganLaron View Post
    I use my Ifrit and Titan weapons just as much as my Relic.
    You use your Ifrit weapon over your Relic weapon, for the same job?
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