One/more Guys Greed?

[Billie21]

I agree its completely selfish in dungeons for armor pieces since they probably already have AK / DL gear, if not better. But when it comes to Primals weapons i kinda understand it.
Let me explain.

I have a Thyrus+1 on my WHM but if i run Titan again and WHM weapon drops ill need it for sure.
Not because im thinking "LELZ IM NEEDING JUST BECUZ I CAN AND YUS IM A D!CK".

No.
ill need because:
1. Theyre iconic and rare ( Titan weapons at least ).
2. I have Ifrit and Garuda WHM weapons and then ill have all of the Primals WHM weapons.
3. For vanity slots, if it is extended to weapons aswell that is. But in doubt, ill just roll need.

People are probably needing on Primals weapons for the same reasons more than just to be a jerk.

I roll on items I don't really *need* for the same reasons as you. But I roll "greed", not "need" since it's what it is. If the item is better than what I have, i roll need, if not, i roll greed, period.

As for people forming FCs to satisfy their own selfish wants/needs, I can't say I'm surprised. What would surprise me is if said FCs worked out.

[TeganLaron]

I have done so much Titan HM runs for people that need the relic and everytime the Titan drop is the job they are playing they will NEED even so they are getting a relic.

Sorry, it might just be me here, but what is wrong with that? If it's the job they are playing as, why wouldn't they need it?

I've got my relic, but I still often use my Ifrit and Titan weapons too. And have done many runs of Garuda to attempt to get that weapon too.

[Myrhn]

Sorry, it might just be me here, but what is wrong with that? If it's the job they are playing as, why wouldn't they need it?

I've got my relic, but I still often use my Ifrit and Titan weapons too. And have done many runs of Garuda to attempt to get that weapon too.

Nothing wrong just saying you are greedy. There are other 7 people with you some getting relic and others that want a chance to get a weapon but since you need it they get absolutely nothing out of the fight. Like i said I don't mind if the greed and fight for it with everyone else, but need it when you are getting a relic is just greedy in my opinion.

[TeganLaron]

Nothing wrong just saying you are greedy. There are other 7 people with you some getting relic and others that want a chance to get a weapon but since you need it they get absolutely nothing out of the fight. Like i said I don't mind if the greed and fight for it with everyone else, but need it when you are getting a relic is just greedy in my opinion.

I wrote a longer reply, but I just can't be bothered. No, it's not greedy. I'm a White Mage, so I will take White Mage weapon. The same way I wouldn't expect the Paladin or Dragoon to give me his weapon. If you don't get that I just guess you don't understand the job system too well.

EDIT: Just looked at your signature and you're basically level 50 everything. You realise not everyone is like that don't you? So you're expecting me to give my weapon to someone who may not have ever even have played as a WHM, let alone be level 50.

[Myrhn]

Cut it out b/c character limit.

You are missing my point, it doesn't matter the job system or need/greed/pass system. In Titan HM (thats the example i been using) some people do it to get theirs relic weapon while others like me help on the fight to get a chance to get a titan weapon. After the win, the people that are doing it for the relic are already getting a reward(a relic weapon after the 900 tomes they need) but the others are waiting to see if they can get a titan weapon. For me you are greedy if you roll need on titan weapon if you are already getting a relic. If you are there for the titan weapon roll need i dont mind. If you are getting a relic and want the titan weapon, roll greed and fight for it with everyone else.

EDIT: I know not everyone is 50 on all jobs but for some of us we go to those fight to gear those jobs that are 50 and seeing people need on a weapon they probably wont use since they getting relic is really a shame and I see them as greedy people.

[Resheph]

Sticking to the rules set by the game (for the most part) is the best way to do things. My FC generally stick with need if you can need it and greed if you can greed it. Courtesy is usually given to those who are greeding for a class they aren't on when there is no one else who needs it.

If your FC isn't letting you roll need on lots, that's one thing, but if you are just getting beaten on lots for a job you aren't on, then you just have to keep trying or ask your friends if they will let you greed something that you need if it drops. Do this before you enter the dungeon so they know ahead of time what gear you are after.

Edit:

Also I have been known to "need" things on principal, when I know there is no one else there who can truly benefit from the item. A good example was Titan's axe, which dropped on my warrior Titan win. Did I need it? Yes.

But, I checked with the group before hand and there was no one who even played Warrior that didn't already have something better, and it was my first win after many failures so I felt like I deserved the souvenir. Ended up being a blessing, because it took me a while to get the tomes for my relic and in that time I ended up using it to help with many Garudas and Titans.

Another example is Garuda's talons which only dropped for me after I completed my Spharai +1. After 100s of Garuda wins. Same situation. No one needed it, so I took it on principle and in defiance of this game's sometimes brutal RNG.

[Norack]

It's not a FFXIV problem it is a humanity problem. All humans do this at one point or at all times, and if you say you don't do it you are greedy and also a liar.

[Reslin]

It's not a FFXIV problem it is a humanity problem. All humans do this at one point or at all times, and if you say you don't do it you are greedy and also a liar.

All humans at some point will take something they don't need when they're right next to someone who clearly does need it? Sorry, I haven't done this and I'm not a liar. If someone tells me "I need this." and they clearly do need it (it's a need not a want) and I myself am not in need of said item/thing. I'm not going to take it. I've bought groceries, walked out of the grocery store, saw someone who was homeless and gave them some of the food I paid for.

Final Fantasy example. I want demarogue ring for my summoner. Any group I'm in I ask if anyone doesn't need it if I can have it. If I see a blackmage/summoner in my group that doesn't have it I don't bother asking them to pass on it. They are actively playing a class that is in need of said ring. I am not going to ask them to pass on something they will actively be using. In fact, if I am in a group on said summoner and see a bm/summoner I ask "Is this your main class?" If they say yes and they don't have the ring. I won't even need roll on it.

[Norack]

All humans at some point will take something they don't need when they're right next to someone who clearly does need it? Sorry, I haven't done this and I'm not a liar. If someone tells me "I need this." and they clearly do need it (it's a need not a want) and I myself am not in need of said item/thing. I'm not going to take it. I've bought groceries, walked out of the grocery store, saw someone who was homeless and gave them some of the food I paid for.

Sorry but one example out of your life isn't going to cut it. Unless u give me the minutes of your entire life and let people parse it you have no case.

I have done good things in my life to, does that make me an angel?

If a mass murderer gives a homeless person something to eat, should he be immediately forgiven and revered as a good person?

[Reslin]

Sorry but one example out of your life isn't going to cut it. Unless u give me the minutes of your entire life and let people parse it you have no case.

I have done good things in my life to, does that make me an angel?

If a mass murderer gives a homeless person something to eat, should he be immediately forgiven and revered as a good person?

I'm no angel but at the same time I don't take something someone else needs. Sorry sounds like a case of "I'm greedy so I'm going to automatically assume that everyone is like me because it's an easy way to justify my behavior." You do realize that sociopaths/psychopaths have used "Human nature." as a justification throughout history, right? Even going as far as to claim that everyone is just like them. I'm done here I'm not going to go off topic with an argument over this.