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    Quote Originally Posted by zakalw3 View Post
    Untrue.

    Flash spam will hold groups of 3 even if you have a zealous single target dps.

    Just mark a target so you're auto attacking the same mob as your dps, and your flash spam and spirits and auto attack will hold just perfectly.
    No, when I get zealous, RoH spam isn't enough to keep up. Flash spam is just insulting.
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    Indeed Flash spamm never will hold close to equal gear lvl dps single target nuke, if it holds...your dps has L2P issue
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denver_Max View Post
    yes or no, and why?
    Flash works to initiate group aggro but physical dmg is needed to keep it. Spamming doesn't work because blind will have no effect until it has worn off so it will be a wast of a gcd rotation.

    If you are focusing down a marked target flash helps to keep the other enemies interested in you as party builds aggro during normal progression of fights.

    Flash early and often but don't waste gcd spamming it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zakalw3 View Post
    You can hold groups of 9+ mobs in wp using just flash spam with SoS and SW as they come around and Riot blade combo to keep flash going.

    You don't even need to use Harlone combos.

    This is with full DF and relic gear on the PLD. You can hold more if your group is geared with you.

    Before that, when you're only geared to take each group as they come (2-3 mobs at a time, perhaps 3-5), the exact same tactic can be applied.

    Flash spam will hold aggro perfectly.
    Find better dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochetm View Post
    Find better dps.
    ...and then they all die before the DPS pull agrro.

    Really don't need much more than flash spam in WP SR's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grembo View Post
    ...and then they all die before the DPS pull agrro.

    Really don't need much more than flash spam in WP SR's.
    That's cool for speed runs. zakalw3 has been talking about Flash being able to hold even against "zealous" single-target damage. Clearly, he's not playing with very good DPS. Or they're coddling him and watching aggro.
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    Flash spam is important in some end game situations, but basically it is a mix. Like someone already said, it won't always keep threat alone, and it's also resource intensive. Scorn and Spirits Within should generally be used on cooldown because they're free, and you have to tab through targets constantly to find anything you're about to lose threat on. If you have one target that you're about to lose threat on and the other targets are OK, you should do a rage of halone combo on that target. If you're close to losing threat on two targets, you can split the savage blade and rage of halone between them and cycle the combo again (though this isn't always the best way to do it, it really depends on how fast you're losing threat). If there's three or more targets you're losing threat on, you probably need to flash spam with some riot blades mixed in if you're low on MP / without ballad.

    So yes, Flash spam definitely has a place, but it should be avoided in any situation where rage of halone combos are sufficient, because they don't cost MP. Really though you need to be very dynamic as a tank. DPS and healing change from fight to fight, even in a static, so there is no go-to strategy or perfect rotation that will keep threat in every situation. These abilities all have a time and place, and as with any class it takes a little personal experience to understand when to use each, and also when you don't need to use them. Don't be afraid to keep threat close, either - at end game you'll need to conserve your resources as much as possible. So if you're only a few hundred threat above a DPS or healer, that's good enough, so long as you're confident you can keep it that way. That just takes practice.
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