Notorious Monsters. Will we be seeing them again? (outside the F.A.T.E. system)

[Alhanelem]

Any chance we will be seeing these rare spawn monsters in ARR. My friends and I had a lot of fun hunting down NMs during 1.0 or are we just stuck with the same F.A.T.E. monsters (which are boring).

Zerging F.A.T.E. monsters are not fun after a while. Fighting a challenging, rare spawning monster is a great way of solo/group challenges.

What do you guys think?

For those that don't know what Notorious Monsters are. They are monsters that spawned in a group of normal monsters, but have significantly higher stats/skills compared to their counterparts. Monsters could be taken down in a party or solo(in some cases).

Nope, they'lll all be in the fate system. They're still notorious monsters, and some of them are still rare spawns. the only difference is you don't have to fight over claim.

We already know what notorious monsters are, because the game already has them. Once more are added and technical issues worked out people will be more dispersed and there won't be so severe of a mad rush to participate (frankly it puzzles me how badly people want to get a piece of behemoth and odin since the rewards are mostly vanity- the weapons are not so good)

I wouldn't call behemoth and odin "easy" either- maybe you've never noticed the pile of bodies everywhere at these fights - and once players move on to other content, these NMs are actually going to get harder with fewer people there.

[blipples]

NMs in their current state scale according to the number of people there. So I don't see them getting more difficult, or easier as people move on to new content. Now what you just said brings up a whole other issue though. For the people who are willing to sit there and camp Behemoth and Odin, the rewards are trash! They're all ilvl 50 gear or vanity items. I think that is just silly. I'm not saying they should be the best in the game or anything but at least maybe a step under artifact and allegan gear for the people willing to put the time in to get them!


I believe if the dev team would just simply add a token system to certain NMs just like they did with Behemoth and Odin, the system would work near flawlessly. Participate in the fight, get tokens. Spend tokens, sweet gear. Got your gear?! Sweet! Profit! Or even just add an armor or weapon drop to the bigger boss fates out there now that can drop minions of gold. Give us some RNG! It makes that minion or equipment so much more rewarding when it drops. I know it would be a bit unrealistic to expect this in the near future due to sheer amount of gear that would have to be developed and the systems put in the place to accommodate such a feature, but I believe it would add a whole other layer of depth to the game aside from just spamming quests and dungeons for gear.

I would love to hear some response from the dev team as to if anything remotely similar to this is planned for the future!

[Alhanelem]

I believe if the dev team would just simply add a token system to certain NMs

Uhm... that's how it currently works for both behemoth and odin. Get silver, get 1 token, get gold, get 5. Trade in tokens for rewards.

You snipped off the sentence that literally said "just like they did with Behemoth and Odin..." Finish reading posts, dude. ha

I read the post. I wrote it this way because what you said didn't (and still doesn't) make sense- Behemoth and Odin are the only two mobs of their kind at the moment, meaning: Currently, all such encounters work this way.

[blipples]

Uhm... that's how it currently works for both behemoth and odin. Get silver, get 1 token, get gold, get 5. Trade in tokens for rewards.

You snipped off the sentence that literally said "just like they did with Behemoth and Odin..." Finish reading posts, dude. ha

[Craiger]

You have to remember that FFXIV 1.0 was failure and they didn't have too much time to rebuild the entire game. Probably didn't get as funded as it could either. If the support from gamers persist, I'm sure there will come some amazing updates in time.

[Kittra]

You have to remember that FFXIV 1.0 was failure and they didn't have too much time to rebuild the entire game. Probably didn't get as funded as it could either. If the support from gamers persist, I'm sure there will come some amazing updates in time.

I believe this as well, but my belief wavers whenever a developer tells us that something is impossible, which really boils down to: "We don't want to spend the time or money doing it."

Keeping the faith is extremely difficult when limits are placed on something you hold dear.

[Ri_ri]

I think they could make Gorgimera and Coincounter level 50 NMs/FATEs. They're the perfect monsters to get the Odin/Behemoth treatment.

[Starlord]

Once more "Huge fights" come into the game, it should be more spread out. ( hopefully)

[Yagrush]

How about instead of having rare ocurring FATEs like Odin and Behemoth being a public fate, why not make it an INSTANCE that only pops as frequently as the Fate, and you have a window to enter the instance with your group. This way you can enjoy the fight with its own mechanics without zerging with no rhyme or reason and having a semblance of an interesting fight.

[lord_naarghul]

Where would these NM's be placed? Theres not room for them, the zones are all too small.

Southern Thanalan is pretty big...