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    ChriskoOnAnotherLevel's Avatar
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    People learn, grow, change and mature for better or worse.

    I have been playing MMOs as my primary game type for almost 14 years now, and I can say with absolute certainty that in my personal opinion, to me, this is the most boring MMO I have ever played.

    Speed runs, fate exp imbalance and yoshi's blind ignorance just obliterated the respect I had for the game overall, which was quite a bit coming into 2.0.

    When the company tries to convince its players that, everything is fine they are just doing it wrong, instead of revamping the aspect in question that is clearing flawed, you have a serious SERIOUS outlook problem.

    Then to make it even worse you creatively eat your own words a month later, all of that time you could have been designing a solution instead of trying to save PR face, pathetic.

    The narrow track that this game attempts to force its players into, results in farming coil, and doing speed runs to gear your character's additional jobs.

    After only a short while of minimal play you are left with zero difficult tasks that do not require your FC at an organized time, which is not always a bad thing in MMOs, but in this case it is quite tragic.

    The ability to log into the game and accomplish something of meaning is in fact possible without a FC or coil group, but it has huge diminishing returns.

    When you begin gearing your 3rd or 4th job that you will likely never be able to main, you begin to question why in fact you are even bothering.

    Many things have been mainstreamed and simplified from FFXI that is for sure, but this also results in 1 perfect set of gear that will always be of the highest Ilvl, and almost zero need for situational pieces you can attempt to obtain as side grades.

    When 2.1 hits those that are clearing coil will have been clearing harder content than newly released content. This will result in a few clears for events sake then a return to the normal routine.

    It is not looking good :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorauku View Post
    Every MMO that is on it's early content is boring. So suck it up.
    Your quite wrong
    Tera was released , end game not boring , Wow Released end game not boring , GW2 end game was hard as hell but not boring just over challenging.
    FFXIV end game isnt even there. Like cmon you want me to spam AK/WP nono stop.. REALLY.
    Oh and Coil only once clear a week ... HMMM..
    I mean its bad enough that the game has over half its player base leave already but 2.1 isnt even bringing anything new thats worth doing.
    The drops from crystal palace are going to be worse then Coil so people are going to clear it once then never go back cause AK/WP are still more benefitial . SE have no idea whats going on.
    Believe me Free to Play isnt far off
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyblade View Post
    Your quite wrong
    Tera was released , end game not boring , Wow Released end game not boring , GW2 end game was hard as hell but not boring just over challenging.
    FFXIV end game isnt even there. Like cmon you want me to spam AK/WP nono stop.. REALLY.
    Oh and Coil only once clear a week ... HMMM..
    I mean its bad enough that the game has over half its player base leave already but 2.1 isnt even bringing anything new thats worth doing.
    The drops from crystal palace are going to be worse then Coil so people are going to clear it once then never go back cause AK/WP are still more benefitial . SE have no idea whats going on.
    Believe me Free to Play isnt far off
    Ah, opinions, don't we love them, and also where is his wrong?

    Pretty much every MMO at launch is indeed boring, to MOST people, some people go at a very slow pace to better enjoy it, but for the most part all new MMOS get boring at launch if you play them long enough, you can't sit here and tell someone "You're wrong" just because you don't agree with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyblade View Post
    Your quite wrong
    Tera was released , end game not boring , Wow Released end game not boring , GW2 end game was hard as hell but not boring just over challenging.
    FFXIV end game isnt even there. Like cmon you want me to spam AK/WP nono stop.. REALLY.
    Oh and Coil only once clear a week ... HMMM..
    I mean its bad enough that the game has over half its player base leave already but 2.1 isnt even bringing anything new thats worth doing.
    The drops from crystal palace are going to be worse then Coil so people are going to clear it once then never go back cause AK/WP are still more benefitial . SE have no idea whats going on.
    Believe me Free to Play isnt far off
    Old post but amusing to read in 2017.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko View Post
    Old post but amusing to read in 2017.
    Certainly, so much doom and gloom and here we are: 4 years later and the game is growing bigger and bigger. It wouldn't be possible without the player's feedback and support. Constructive criticism is what helped this game to not die. The game has its flaws, like every game on the market, but everyone is pursuing their own goals and they have their own motivation to play it. If yours end at some point, it doesn't mean the game is boring or bad, it's just not appealing to you. However, the feedback of why it is boring, providing suggestions, is better than just jump and say "The game sucks, it's going FTP, game's dying". It helps players that are on the same boat.

    Remember that one parody thread "The many deaths of FFXIV"? It was based on player's ridiculous complaints. It was hilarious how they wished the death of this game because they didn't like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorauku View Post
    Every MMO that is on it's early content is boring. So suck it up.
    Not really, especially in regards to combat. XIV has probably one of the most mind numbing class designs with combat pre-endgame. Most jobs are lucky to have a 1-2-3 combo and something else to do around level 40. By contrast, the last time I leveled a character in SWTOR, by level 10 I felt far more engaged with combat than I do most jobs at 40-50-ish in XIV, a lot due to more abilities being front loaded on a class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorauku View Post
    Every MMO that is on it's early content is boring. So suck it up.
    Thread should have ended with this reply. I don't know why people are desperate to keep a thread alive for the sake of controversy.


    Quote Originally Posted by ElazulHP View Post
    It's the same person necroing every time. Report him. Cite examples. Perhaps the mods will actually do something for once.
    This.
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    I also find there to be a gross lacking of quests... true, you have levemetes and guildhests, but I find the rewards to be very lacking, and almost not worth the time to do. FATEs are probably the most time-efficient, but FATE groups tend to get so large that often times by the time you get there, the mobs are already dead and you lose out on XP rewards. The fact that you have often to travel across the zone to reach a temporary FATE that you might not get any XP reward from also adds to this problem.
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    Specifically speaking to the black mage class... the rotation is so mind-numbingly boring and simple I can't believe it. Throw down a lightning DoT, spam fire, then swap to ice, spam ice, swap to fire, spam fire, renew lightning... there are some fillers like convert, insta-cast, sure-cast, etc... but nothing that really adds to the spells you are casting. I'm still trying to figure out what real purpose a soul crystal serves other than as an ID card. It'd be nice to have an accessory that you could actively click and time with your other spells and abilities for increased damage or utility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithilien View Post
    Specifically speaking to the black mage class... the rotation is so mind-numbingly boring and simple I can't believe it.
    The most fun DPS rotation I've had as a DPS in an MMO was Cata/MoP Arcane mage rotation. You know, that one that people often criticize as being 1 button? Honestly, that's fairly close. The rotation itself is dead simple, there's about 6 buttons total you'd use, and 3 of those are cooldowns for your burn period.
    What makes it interesting is how the mechanic functions. Arcane Mages do more damage the more mana they have, yet their arcane blast does more damage and costs much more mana when chain casted. It becomes an interesting tug of war trying to maintain your mana at a decent level until you burn phase, bottom out your mana, and then regen it.

    I think that overall, yes the rotation mechanics for dps are a bit too simple, but I complexity is added over the lifespan of an mmo
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