How To: Maximize Your DPS as Dragoon

[Viridiana]

This has nothing to do with my parse. My parse was a boss fight - it ended when the boss died.


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Where's this double Jump he's talking about?

I know there are boss fights that end around the minute mark. I'm just explaining why people ask for 5 minute parses: to avoid padding numbers with buffs.

As to the double Jump, your Cycle 3 used to be Heavy, Impulse, Sweep, Disembowel, Chaos, Jump, True, Vorpal, Full, Jump. That is, until 33 minutes after I pointed it out in my last post, at which point you edited your post, according to the time stamp. Good show.

[Eclips]

Threads like these are exactly why DRGs get such a bad rap. optimal rotation and max dps are just easy ways to pick out which people really don't understand how the pve encounters in this game function.

The first and largest mistake made in the OP is a lack of any usable evidence other than a video about a training dummy. We should start by renaming this post to : "How to kill the training dummy faster than that one thread where everyone circle jerks about nothing practical."

Which boss did you parse for your ffxivapp screenshots? Which boss are you fighting that allows you to run your rotation and to avoid damaging mechanics while still using the jumps?

[LongNu]

The first and largest mistake made in the OP is a lack of any usable evidence other than a video about a training dummy. We should start by renaming this post to : "How to kill the training dummy faster than that one thread where everyone circle jerks about nothing practical."

Out of all arguments made, this is the *only* one that I can actually respect as something logical. I truthfully agree with you which is why I despise the other thread. There is nothing practical in it other than useless theoretical nonsense made up by players with 0 official confirmation using faulty parsers. Even so, I have found something, that in all parsing phrases, does more DPS and presented it to the table yet here we are going in useless circles when all they have to do is simply test it themselves and decide from there.

Sure... I was already doing it for the most part but reading through his thread gave me a better understanding of what to do when I have the chance to stay on a boss longer.

My presentation is that this rotation does more DPS in any length of time and hinges more on a priority system. Try it yourself.

[Eclips]

The plain and simple truth, (and the reason that these theorycraft threads are stupid and pointless), is that dragoons work on a PRIORITY system, that is affected by each individual boss and the length of time you spend on them. So if you're going to post a parse, let it be in a way that it shows the LENGTH OF ENCOUNTER, NAME OF ENCOUNTER, OUTSIDE / FOOD BUFFS USED, and PARTY MAKEUP. If I ran a scholar, used food, had 2 bards with rotating TP song, I would demolish just about anything on a meter.

This game was made to be played on a PS3 for god's sake it really isn't that hard to figure out. Each and every fight is different. Do you have an optimal rotation to use on Titan HM before phase changes? Do you have an optimal heart burst phase that doesn't ruin your IR / BfB timings? If so, post them!

[Eclips]

Here's your basic DRG guide, written in 5 minutes, by Eclips:
1. Don't pull aggro at the start of the fight. Put up your buffs, dots, or just do nothing.
2. Do you have enough time before the next phase of the encounter to put your dots so that they will last their full duration? Yes? Put dots on the mob. Yes, fracture too.
3. Do you only have time for 1 global cooldown? Use impulse dive from behind.
4. Do you only have time for 2 global cooldowns? Use ID, Disembowel.
5. Do you only have time for 3 global cooldowns? Use TT-VT-FT
6. Do you only have time for 4 global cooldowns? Use ID - TT - VT - FT
7. Do you only have time for 5 global cooldowns? Use ID - Dis - TT - VT - FT
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and so on.

Start looking at it from that perspective.

tldr; Everyone needs to learn the basics, use some common sense, and stop circle jerking on "zomg max dps posts" like these.

[Odox]

Woah! Eclips, while I agree with you, you need to calm down a little or you are likely to burst a blood vessel.

The Rotation Reborn thread is not a max dps thread by any means. It simply states what abilities are your best choice if you are able to actually get them off. It's helped me (newly switched to DRG from MNk because of coil drops) max my dps for different situations. Could I have done this on my own? Sure... I was already doing it for the most part but reading through his thread gave me a better understanding of what to do when I have the chance to stay on a boss longer.

Now about this thread. It claims to be the MAX DPS. It lacks any real evidence that it is what it claims other than a 83sec fight which ,any sane person should understand, is not the normal length of any fight in the game. If I had to guess, it was Tonberry King.

Change title to "HOW TO MAX DPS ON SHORT FIGHTS W/O ANY MECHANICS"

[Odox]

@Eclips I was joking at the fact that you only had 3 posts and all three were basically you hitting a boiling point for these "MAX DPS" threads. =P

My presentation is that this rotation does more DPS in any length of time and hinges more on a priority system. Try it yourself.

Why should I or anyone else provide the evidence that what YOU claim is true? Oh and ANY length of time? ONE 83 second parse that was likely done on a boss with no mechanics/disconnects is not proof that your rotation is the end all rotation for DRG. You would need to post video evidence of you doing the rotation successfully on multiple length/mechanic fights and your parse from them to be taken seriously at this point. Otherwise this thread is just a joke.

[LongNu]

Why should I or anyone else provide the evidence that what YOU claim is true?

I don't lose anything by you not taking my evidence. At the same time, I don't have to play your little game either. Which btw, has no official confirmation on correctness. If I were to make side by side parses of the other rotation vs this and show this one is coming out higher then it would be another circle of endless 'do this and do that'. So instead, why not do your own and make your own judgment? I presented something that does more DPS than the other rotation, in every way based on my own tests and you refused to accept it without doing your own tests. This is not my problem, this is yours. The best way to get something done is to do it yourself. Up to now, I have yet to be disproved by any post here other than vile, arguably angry criticisms that serve no purpose in an objective goal to truly determine what does more.

[AzumaKun]

I presented something that does more DPS than the other rotation,

Sorry, I've been trying to watch this thread from the sidelines since my last post and with LongNu on ignore, but I just couldn't help myself.

Unfortunately for you, the burden of proof is on you. Otherwise, no one will take what you say seriously.

[LongNu]

Unfortunately for you, the burden of proof is on you. Otherwise, no one will take what you say seriously.

I've already done my tests and found my proof. I am more than satisfied in my findings. You, on the other hand have yet to disprove me which only adds to my satisfaction in what I have found.