The world feels too small.

[Naunet]

By MMO standards, the world is plenty big.

By what MMO standards? The MMOs I've played have all had larger zones than XIV...

[Mixxy]

By what MMO standards? The MMOs I've played have all had larger zones than XIV...

Well my reference MMOs include WoW, Warhammer Online, Rift, Aion, TERA, GW1, GW2, and Neverwinter. I don't know what MMOs you're playing with zones bigger than FFXIV, but they're almost certainly niche games with little influence on the market. Now I'm not saying FFXIV shouldn't try to accomplish that. I'm always in favor of making things bigger and better, you have to understand that. But compared to other major titles, FFXIV is about on par.

edit: I acknowledge that FFXI had bigger zones, but that was back in the day when "make a 50 mile long flat plane and color it brown/green" was acceptable.

[Naunet]

Well my reference MMOs include WoW, Warhammer Online, Rift, Aion, TERA, GW1, GW2, and Neverwinter. I don't know what MMOs you're playing with zones bigger than FFXIV, but they're almost certainly niche games with little influence on the market.

You... actually think XIV's zones are bigger than WoW, Rift, Aion, TERA, and GW2? Those are the MMOs I was referring to, by the way.

The world seems plenty big enough to me. How much more time do I have to spend just to get from the Waking Sands to Ul'Dah? It is 3 minutes by Chocobo porter. It is easily double that to run with sprints mixed in. And you haven't even gone all that far. I think player will start to get annoyed if takes 10 minutes to just go between places to do their main quest.

Aetherytes do exist.

[Mixxy]

You... actually think XIV's zones are bigger than WoW, Rift, Aion, TERA, and GW2? Those are the MMOs I was referring to, by the way.

Definitely bigger than Rift or Aion. ABSOLUTELY bigger than WoW. TERA also had some pretty tiny zones. Now, GW2 was a bit bigger. But the overall landmass was roughly the same, probably smaller.

[Lumiin]

Definitely bigger than Rift or Aion. ABSOLUTELY bigger than WoW. TERA also had some pretty tiny zones. Now, GW2 was a bit bigger. But the overall landmass was roughly the same, probably smaller.

Please tell me this is a joke. Please....someone....anyone.

http://www.malin.us/images/aion/aion...rd_minimap.jpg

This is an Aion map, there are no loading points in this map, 98% of the map is accessible there are very few nooks and crannies you can't access. Even though some shouldn't be accessible due to getting stuck x.x the island at the top you can't get too its just decoration. In ffxiv there's a a ton of spots on the map that you can't walk through, even though you should be able too. I was over in the area where the Shiva's crystal is and theres so many puddles that you can't run through its insane. Not to mention the maps are just small there's loading screens even in the dungeons! I mean really?

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

Please tell me this is a joke. Please....someone....anyone.

http://www.malin.us/images/aion/aion...rd_minimap.jpg

I just want to add that this map, is not Aion`s map, but just one of its starting regions, there are 6 other maps equally if bigger in the game.

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And for those saying FFXIV world is big, you have to be joking or trolling, if anything in this game dissapoints is how small the regions and map is, and how exploration doesn`t even exist. (just arriving to a region and getting an archivement for that is not exploration). Coming MMORPG with really big maps. Like Aion, GW2, RuneScape, WoW, EverQuest... God EverQuest maps is just hundreds of times bigger than all the maps of FFXIV including instances together.

FFXIV world just saves himself because is beautifully crafted and weather, care for details and immersion is deep, so, even if you don`t have much to travel or much to explore, you at least can see lots of nice details, but is not enough.

Regions should have to be, imo, twice their actual size and there we are talking. Not even to mention to have more exploration, paths, things like GW2s jumping puzzles, things to do and to look for, not the outrageous ammount of instances, warps and invisible walls. With their size, if the regions were seamless, the map would feel at least, a bit bigger, add a few open world dungeons. And there you are starting to have a proper MMORPG world.

[MikoteAstra]

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Well spoken (^.^)

I basically dont understand why the hell we got such a small size maps....and dont come to me with.... is not possible because of ps3 or other wise they need to make it repatable like in version 1.0...! This i dont buy and is pure excuse for lazzy work ! Games like Aion and GW are good example thats is possible ! I am giving this 2 games as an example because ive plaied them. And i cant speak for games wich i never plaied and give example with them.

The only to reasons i can think of, why they gave us such small maps are:

1. I think maybe this is main reason is because they didnt planed to give us eany Open World content in the game....the entire concept at the moment is to get everething in the DN ( Stones, Armors etc.. ), we have dns, Primals...again in a dns.....Coil again in a dn...! You sit in one place to go in dn.... ! Sorry but this is the reality of the game at this moment, if DN servesr go dowen like couple a days ago you have nothing to do !!!

2. Or maybe the servers or the game engine is something really really wrong with them.


Just my toughts

[MikoteAstra]

Definitely bigger than Rift or Aion. ABSOLUTELY bigger than WoW. TERA also had some pretty tiny zones. Now, GW2 was a bit bigger. But the overall landmass was roughly the same, probably smaller.

Are you joking, i hope you do !

I plaied Aion and the maps are like 4 to 5 times bigger then the tiny little zones we have here !

[Mixxy]

Are you joking, i hope you do !

I plaied Aion and the maps are like 4 to 5 times bigger then the tiny little zones we have here !

Which zones? Granted I only got up to just over level 40, but all the zones I saw were about the same size as the ones in WoW.

[Lumiin]

Which zones? Granted I only got up to just over level 40, but all the zones I saw were about the same size as the ones in WoW.

http://www.malin.us/images/aion/aion...rd_minimap.jpg