SMN and Twintania

[Yenn]

Has any thought been given to giving SMN an easier time on encounters like Twintania? Any future encounters that require burst DPS are going to exhibit the same problem.

At the moment, the class is basically a weight that needs to be carried by double BRD. Doing Dreadknights and Conflags is like bashing your head against a wall.
To clarify, I'm not saying SMN can't do Twintania; we can kill her with me as SMN and without double BRD, but I'm saying that they're much less desirable than any other class and our kills would be much cleaner if I were another class.

[Crescent_Dusk]

And you people were saying that burst wasn't needed anywhere. I've been saying for a long time that a 7.5 second ramp up to start doing damage is horrendous, but people get what they deserve for fanboying.

[Zilara]

I'd say keep at it. Summoner's definitely lacking a little in the burst, but with proper timing, we've been seeing 1900-2100 fester crits. Our summoner actually beat me by a little bit on overall, and with proper stuns on the Dreadknight, it shouldn't get anywhere. Any slow knocks it down to like old man speed.

[Aureliami]

The optimal DPS composition is 4 people who know how to play. Beats class stacking any day.

But you're right having 4 people who know how to play and having 2 of them play BRD makes it much cleaner and easier.

[MakotoNano]

I'd say keep at it. Summoner's definitely lacking a little in the burst, but with proper timing, we've been seeing 1900-2100 fester crits. Our summoner actually beat me by a little bit on overall, and with proper stuns on the Dreadknight, it shouldn't get anywhere. Any slow knocks it down to like old man speed.

How exactly are your SMN doing 1900-2100 fester crits? I'm in full ilvl 90 minus 2 pieces, most of it best in slot. With food, int pot and foe requiem up ive only seen about 1750 (edit: and Raging Strikes up). ... so thats a bit high if you ask me.

[glim]

How exactly are your SMN doing 1900-2100 fester crits? I'm in full ilvl 90 minus 2 pieces, most of it best in slot. With food, int pot and foe requiem up ive only seen about 1750 (edit: and Raging Strikes up). ... so thats a bit high if you ask me.

I've seen 1950 on my end, and that's before I got some ilvl 90 pcs, raging strikes, battlevoice foe requiem, hq pot, and food.

[MakotoNano]

I've seen 1950 on my end, and that's before I got some ilvl 90 pcs, raging strikes, battlevoice foe requiem, hq pot, and food.

I don't see how considering I've just checked your gear and I'm quite a bit more geared then you. It may not have been battlevoice FR when I've tested it us they normally use it for mana or TP song but still I dont see battle voice adding 200-300 damage to a fester

[Kevee]

That's a nice strawman you came up with. Name in my post where I specifically stated that a 7.5 second ramp up was in reference to conflags.

And you people were saying that burst wasn't needed anywhere. I've been saying for a long time that a 7.5 second ramp up to start doing damage is horrendous, but people get what they deserve for fanboying.

Why would you even say that, considering the topic is about Conflags and Dreadknights? Since you didn't specifically mention Dreadknights, that means it was a blanket statement.

How exactly are your SMN doing 1900-2100 fester crits? I'm in full ilvl 90 minus 2 pieces, most of it best in slot. With food, int pot and foe requiem up ive only seen about 1750 (edit: and Raging Strikes up). ... so thats a bit high if you ask me.

When the little snakes explode they have an AoE damage buff-debuff that applies both to you, and the big snake.

Was seeing 1.4-1.6k non-crit Festers on the big snake after that.

Highest I've seen without that is ~1.7k crit, but I don't use INT pots. Our BRDs don't BV FR, either, so you can add at least 200-300 damage on top of that.

[MakotoNano]

Why would you even say that, considering the topic is about Conflags and Dreadknights? Since you didn't specifically mention Dreadknights, that means it was a blanket statement.



When the little snakes explode they have an AoE damage buff-debuff that applies both to you, and the big snake.

Was seeing 1.4-1.6k non-crit Festers on the big snake after that.

Highest I've seen without that is ~1.7k crit, but I don't use INT pots. Our BRDs don't BV FR, either, so you can add at least 200-300 damage on top of that.

We haven't had time in turn 5 yet even though we've been there for weeks, so We haven't seen the adds yet. So if they explode and give a damage buff that makes sense. I was talking in general on average fights not with special buffs from mobs.

[Kevee]

And you people were saying that burst wasn't needed anywhere. I've been saying for a long time that a 7.5 second ramp up to start doing damage is horrendous, but people get what they deserve for fanboying.

On conflags we're fine. We're faster than anyone else on conflags(Bane+Fester+Obey as soon as Conflag spawns), and we even keep damage on the boss/our own conflag while conflagged.


Dreadknights on the other hand..