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    Starplayer's Avatar
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    Belle Rose
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 50

    I'm concerned about FATE exp, this is why...

    Squeenix, I just want to mention something that 's caught my attention. Forgive me, for I know that this has been discussed before. However, I would just like to give my 2 cents:

    My friend and I have 2 level 50 jobs and we were starting to get a bit bored spamming AK/WP/CM etc since we were capped on mythos so we decided to take a level 15ish job and start leveling it via dungeons. we both got from 15 - 20 in about a day and we both knew the speed in which we level in dungeons slows down considerably after a point. I called it a night and went to bed but my friend stayed up since he had no work the following day. When I got up I logged in and checked to see how far my friend had leveled, thinking maybe level 22 or 23. to my astonishment I
    saw that he had gone all the way up to 37!
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    I couldn't believe it. Though I knew that FATE grinding was faster than dungeons, I had no idea it was THIS fast. After confirming with my friend that he achieved that through FATE, I asked around and was told that FATE grinding doesn't slow down at all like dungeons do because you simply change areas and get more exp for higher level FATE. So my worry is this, if my friend (who is most definitely not hardcore) can get from 20 - 37 in less than a single day farming FATE, then imagine how man people will have every job leveled to 50 in the very near future. Is this what you want?

    I think FATE needs to be nerfed. Keep it as a viable way to level but for god's sake not THAT fast. Not only is it far too easy but I imagine it also has the potential to unexpectedly burn many players out while they grind levels. Anyway that's just my opinion, thanks for reading.
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    Hmmm. Where have I seen this before?
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    Jonny Tapas
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    Faerie
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    FATES are a cool addition to the game there's no arguing that...

    But they give way way too much EXP. I've never played a game where you can cap this fast! It's basically given away and takes away from a huge part of the game itself!

    So many cool dungeons and fun things to do to level up are completely ignored because FATE spam is soooo fast!

    Nothing wrong with FATE itself just reduce the exp reward so that players can level by alternative means just as efficiently. Do NOT increase alternative means to match the current FATE system!

    As I level my summoner I can:

    Queue for a dungeon and wait 40 minutes because no one does dungeons, they grind FATES!

    or I can jump on the FATE bandwagon and gain an entire level in that 40 minutes!

    There's like no scale to this game... It takes no longer to grind from level 49-50 than it does from level 22 - 23. Having a level 50 job doesn't even feel special!
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    Ayaminae Yirien
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    They said something about increases dungeon exp to balance out fates soon.

    Tbh, I find dungeons with full rested exp to be faster than doing fates, especially when half the time you're doing a fate, you're waiting around for them lol Plus doing it dungeons all the way to 50 makes the game last longer
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    Eros Maxima
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    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...50#post1506350

    Hopefully it'll end up being competitive to FATE exp. Even if FATE grinding still wins out, it'll be nice to see dungeon runs get significantly closer to meeting that much, if not eventually exceeding.
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    Talion Dracht
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    Adamantoise
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Hello,

    The reason FATEs are so popular is in fact because of the limited quest system, dungeons require a 30 min. average wait time for DPS, and that doesn't guarantee you'll beat said dungeon, someone could leave, etc...

    Also, because levequests offer a TINY amount of exp the allowances received are normally reserved for crafting classes, where the exp gain is much higher.

    This is a matter of efficiency, most players will take the quickest path to the top, its common sense, if SE wants to stop FATE grinding they will add more ways to level, reduce exp gained from FATEs and increase what can be gained from dungeons.

    FATEs imo are reserved for your second battle class mostly, if SE wants to stop people from using it to level their 1st class they will take steps to do so I am sure.

    Is that what they want? Can't say...
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    What happened to a good ole game where you can level 1-10ish in your first play session.

    Then maybe to 15ish in your second session...

    By the 20's it might take an entire session to gain a level...

    and when you're nearing the level cap it could take days or weeks to progress?

    and then bam you hit the level cap and feel majorly accomplished... it's special and a real milestone.

    Guess we won't be having any of that here!
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    Jayo Oreon
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    Dont change it until I get my first 50 xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darlan_Ashwood View Post
    Dont change it until I get my first 50 xD
    Grind fates, you'll have it by this time tomorrow...
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