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    Bluevann's Avatar
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    Jet'a Vahn
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    Cannot re-queue on Duty Finder for 15 minutes?

    Ok, first off I want to apologize in case this was discussed elsewhere, I DID search for this issue on the forum but couldn't find anything about it even with specific keywords, so I decided to take it on a new thread.

    I decided to spiritbond some gear on my tank that I didn't want anymore to turn into materia. I quickly get invited to Tam Tara deepcroft, but within a few seconds I learn that the miqo'te conjurer in our group is a cure bot set up by one of our DPSs. I never adopted 3rd party tools and the last thing I want is to support those who do, I left duty thinking I could queue again and find a more honest and efficient group. But when I am back in Gridania and open up Duty Finder I find all the possible duties locked, and the window saying this:

    You are unable to undertake any duties at this time.
    Time remaining until Duty Finder is available: 15 m.

    I would just like to know when and why was this implemented? While after all I don't mind having to wait for 15 minutes, I feel kind of punished for not accepting to tag along with a botter. Could there be a way to avoid this treatment for special cases such as mine? But really I'm just curious to know what this feature is supposed to help with.
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    Kay'la Yukinekove
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    Yep this is happens if you are the first to leave a group.

    Edit: Adding this in because, while I agree it does suck. It happens. I wouldn't would of wanted to party with someone who was botting either. Though I honestly hope you reported them, that would make that 15 minutes wasted more worth it in my opinion.
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    Last edited by Kaela; 11-02-2013 at 06:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluevann View Post
    I would just like to know when and why was this implemented? While after all I don't mind having to wait for 15 minutes, I feel kind of punished for not accepting to tag along with a botter. Could there be a way to avoid this treatment for special cases such as mine? But really I'm just curious to know what this feature is supposed to help with.
    Fortunately, that penalty only applies to the first person that leaves the instance; meaning that if someone else leaves before you, you would be able to leave and re-queue right away. I'm sorry to hear about the experience you went through. We can only hope you won't find another player that uses bots through the Duty Finder.
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    Egwene Alvere
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    The first person to leave duty finder before the instance is finished gets the 15 minute lock out. As far as I remember its has always been this way. SE has it in there to discourage people from leaving instances early. I know it sucks in your case but I would have left too had I become aware someone in my DF party was botting.
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    It's been in the game since ARR went into beta; It is designed to discourage people from bailing out of a run in the middle. The people after the first aren't penalized because they've been screwed over by the first person to leave in most cases, particularly the primal fights.
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    Thanks for explaining guys. I guess this is the first time I ever left first. Haha, I never noticed this before.
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    The lockout is in place to discourage people from leaving groups early for petty/minor reasons or "fishing" for groups (joining and dropping until they find one they like) since this is pretty inconvenient to the other people in the party who then need to wait for a replacement.

    I don't see how you could possibly expect them to implement an exception for "special cases" like the one you describe. Do you expect a GM to manually review your situation and determine that yes, you didn't deserve the 15 minute penalty? I understand that it's inconvenient in situations like yours but I assure you it'd be far more inconvenient to have tanks and healers just joining and leaving random dungeons constantly until they find one with exact party makeup and gear they're hoping for.
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    Mishakai Katyn
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    Quick question.. By Cure Bot, do you mean he told you he is using 3rd party software to control another character, or is he just dual boxing? I used to play a pld and dual boxed a thf when I played 11; not a big deal if they are efficient at controlling two characters simultaneously.
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    Even though it never happened to me, I think it should be more like 30-60 min.

    15 min nothing but a lunch break, an hour will really discourage grief
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaela View Post
    I wouldn't would of wanted to party with someone who was botting either. Though I honestly hope you reported them, that would make that 15 minutes wasted more worth it in my opinion.
    Believe me, I really would've liked to report it. Unfortunately though dungeons cross servers, and I cannot report a player if I can't specify the server they're on. I even tried to look the bot up on the Lodestone, but there are several miqo'te with that name, and I don't want to risk reporting an honest player >_<
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