Can we get an overhaul on the poor combat log? Parses are borked.

[Zerosix]

A fellow blm in guild ran parses with me on turns 1-3 and 4 attempts last night. The results were rather misleading. In all my parses I won, and in all his, he won. Almost all the other dps was different for everyone else in party as well by at least 10-20 dps. The differences in our numbers between the parses was anywhere from 16-48 difference on single target. And one attempt where we wiped after only the initial adds aoe, my parser showed me at 200dps higher than him and me at only a 100dps total on his.

Long story short, please fix the damn combat log. People are running parsers and thinking it is gospel. The parses are not even in the right ballpark. Please fix this.

[EasymodeX]

After parsing >150 Titan attempts and ending up within +/-10 DPS on virtually all of them, I feel like it's reasonably reliable most of the time.

Gospel no, but reasonably useful over multiple encounters.

[Bardo]

You compared your parses to others running parser in your same group though?
Any time we do this, the DPS numbers vary wildly from one person's parse to another.

I think it may have something to do with the parser only starting the "time in battle" when YOU first attack. So if someone else attacks before you do, their dps is inflated on your parse because their "time in battle" that is used to calculate dps from the total damage matches yours instead of starting when they first attacked.
But then again, the total damage numbers can vary by quite a bit from one person's parse to another as well.


So although it seems to do a decent job recording your own personal dps and total damage(even though I believe it's still not recording certain attacks like flaming arrow properly), it seems like it's not recording the rest of the group properly.
So trying to use a parse to compare yourself directly to others in the group is pretty much hogwash.

[Zigkid3]

It doesn't count DoTs correctly either.

[EasymodeX]

You compared your parses to others running parser in your same group though?

Yes and they were pretty close.

I think it may have something to do with the parser only starting the "time in battle" when YOU first attack. So if someone else attacks before you do, their dps is inflated on your parse because their "time in battle" that is used to calculate dps from the total damage matches yours instead of starting when they first attacked.

This is extremely likely, but the magnitude is also very small. Over a 4/8/12 minute fight, starting +/- 2 seconds earlier isn't going to make any difference. For reference, 2 seconds in 8 minutes is 0.42%.

(even though I believe it's still not recording certain attacks like flaming arrow properly),

Yes which is why cross-class comparisons are ~_~ and need to be done carefully by adding in rough estimates for stuff like FA or reasonably assessing for "bard song was up for half the fight" or "there was a shitton of AOE so the BLM had a field day" or "it's Titan so the BLM is lolol" or "player got nailed by 4 gaols", or at the end of the day simply staying away from cross-class comparisons especially for only a single attempt.

However, when one player shows up on the parse for 70-85 DPS consistently over 10 attempts, and another player shows up as 190-205 DPS consistently over 10 attempts, chances are the one guy is having a lot of problems.

So trying to use a parse to compare yourself directly to others in the group is pretty much hogwash.

Uh huh. Right.

Next time I parse for 105 DPS higher than the Monk for 14 attempts in a row I'll remind myself that it's theoretically possible that he doesn't suck horribly and that the parser is just so bugged that I can't really tell that he needs to get a serious dose of l2p.

Edit: That also goes for the 12 attempts where I out-parsed a player of the same class who had 3 tiers of weapon over me by 30% every single time. I mean hell, the parser is so inaccurate that it's obvious it made the exact same error of over-crediting me damage from the other guy over and over and over again.

For the record, I don't believe Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are really dead.

[EasymodeX]

It doesn't count DoTs correctly either.

On the contrary. It seems to count them mostly correctly but obviously not completely accurately.

[Bardo]

On the contrary. It seems to count them mostly correctly but obviously not completely accurately.

That's why on our last ADS kill it showed Venomous Bite and Windbite at 1.2% and 1.9% of my damage respectively, yet showed the SMN at over 400DPS?
: /

In my experience, it's incredibly inconsistent.

[Kevee]

On the contrary. It seems to count them mostly correctly but obviously not completely accurately.

No, it doesn't.

It "sometimes" counts them "mostly correctly."

[Babydoll]

The newest one counts them properly. Not talking about ffvixapp either.

[Soulburn32]

Unless your doing manual DPS calculations your DPS values are wrong.

By what percentage may or may not be important to you but there it is.