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    Quote Originally Posted by Velthice View Post
    Stop saying "players" and stick to just "I"
    Just because others dont come on here and disagree with you dosent mean it should read "I" it should read "players" meaning there will be others that will agree and refuse to go back to a low level dungeon due to level capping or other reasons. The fact is YOU/OTHERS wanted the duty finder and they had been warned back in alpha and beta in regards to duty finder but they said NO NO it wont be like that but in fact it is like that. So now those players basicly made their beds and are now complaining that they CANT get duty finder groups so they should just deal with it because it is what THEY refused to listen to do. These same players refused to listen and now we are exactly in the position that they had been warned about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
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    You know, in your head, I'm sure you thought you were Oscar Wilde, but when you typed it out, it came out all Stephenie Meyer. I honestly can't make heads or tails of whatever you said, but I'm sure it was something along the lines of you disagree from the tone of it though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velthice View Post
    You know, in your head, I'm sure you thought you were Oscar Wilde, but when you typed it out, it came out all Stephenie Meyer. I honestly can't make heads or tails of whatever you said, but I'm sure it was something along the lines of you disagree from the tone of it though.
    Sorry you cant understand but thats on you. The issue at hand is and if a poll would be done via the dev's you will find many players dont like wont like or want to deal with being leve synced to do a low level dungeon (unless it is a really sweet deal and thats highly unlikely if you know SE at all). It is about time management and running low level dungeons ends up being a waste of time for those that are at level cap, not too forget that every dungeon in the game is boring. Most people want to get the crap over with as fast as possible and not waste any more time than they have too, and I dont need to go into the reasons of why, there are plenty of posts in regards to why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
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    Ah ok, so basically your argument is, "I think this, and I know some other people think this, so it stands to reason that most people think this. I don't actually have any proof that most people think this, but if there was, which there isn't for or against, it would most certainly confirm my beliefs."

    Gotcha. /thumbsup
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
    Sorry you cant understand but thats on you. The issue at hand is and if a poll would be done via the dev's you will find many players dont like wont like or want to deal with being leve synced to do a low level dungeon (unless it is a really sweet deal and thats highly unlikely if you know SE at all). It is about time management and running low level dungeons ends up being a waste of time for those that are at level cap, not too forget that every dungeon in the game is boring. Most people want to get the crap over with as fast as possible and not waste any more time than they have too, and I dont need to go into the reasons of why, there are plenty of posts in regards to why.
    That is why we have so man people who thinks they are Hercules but hit like wet noddles in DD and a paper tank in tanking. Ok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
    The fact is YOU/OTHERS wanted the duty finder and they had been warned back in alpha and beta in regards to duty finder but they said NO NO it wont be like that but in fact it is like that. So now those players basicly made their beds and are now complaining that they CANT get duty finder groups so they should just deal with it because it is what THEY refused to listen to do. These same players refused to listen and now we are exactly in the position that they had been warned about.
    Um, there are less duty finder groups because FATE XP is so lopsided that there's no point in running dungeons apart from doing it the first time for your story. The game has been out over two months now, so it's only a small amount of folks that are joining the game at this point, thus the low amount of people available for these dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orophin View Post
    Um, there are less duty finder groups because FATE XP is so lopsided that there's no point in running dungeons apart from doing it the first time for your story. The game has been out over two months now, so it's only a small amount of folks that are joining the game at this point, thus the low amount of people available for these dungeons.
    Although changing the XP balance between fates and dungeon will have an effect, I can't see how it's possible to see if this will increase or decrease queue times for DD's. It's just as likely that more DD's queue up into the system after the changes which may only make the wait time worse. On top of that, then people will no longer want to form fate parties while they all wait for dungeons to pop (can't be queue'd while in a party), making fate farming harder to manage. This could leave everyone in a worse position then what we have now.

    Just saying, be careful for what you seek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Codek View Post
    On top of that, then people will no longer want to form fate parties while they all wait for dungeons to pop (can't be queue'd while in a party), making fate farming harder to manage. This could leave everyone in a worse position then what we have now.
    FATE parties aren't really a necessity until Coerthas and beyond, due to the 15 minute NMs getting zerged and dying within 20 seconds. If you're not in a group you won't get a worthwhile amount of contribution.

    I leveled my Arcanist/Summoner from 15-40 completely solo while queuing for dungeons in between FATEs and got by alright. When I moved to Northern Thanalan it became clear you weren't going to maximize your XP potential without getting into a FATE group.

    You bring up a good point about more DPS joining the queue, but more tanks and healers will as well. Obviously I can't track things like SE does, but it's hard to say whether the amount of tanks/healers joining the queue will offset the amount of DPS that are as well. The only dungeon I've had any luck getting a quick queue as a DPS for was Brayflox, and I think that's mostly because people were joining them to farm the level 30 armor sets. Every other instance has been a ghost town and takes anywhere between 30 mins to an hour, or more, to get into a group.
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