[[ Why do we miss the old FFXI community ]] What made it special ??

[Zenairis]

I don't see what the problem is a lot of the old FFXIV community is still here, most of the people I knew from 1.29 are still here. There are just many new players =)

[chococo]

Another community-lacking and elitist-promoting design of XIV is the raids. Even within FCs, people are forced to group up with a small circle of "friends" cos they need to statically do raids in a group. So you end up having several circles within an FC. New players joining the FC would also have to wait for 7 other new FC members to get together and form their own static. Which may or may not suck. (a basket full of "lesser" apples will just decay faster compared to a basket of juicy apples plus one or two lesser ones)

FFXI allowed all LS members to contribute, whether be it switching in and out, or team to clear adds and stuff. No one is shunned from participating. This is community building. Having an arbitrary FC but in fact there's 5 independent coil groups within it doing their own stuff is not.

An LS member was asking for a tank for WP yesterday in LS. A tank raises hand, and the person forming was asking if he/she can speed run. Tank said probably not, then there was silence. Then the person forming the party resorted to finding a tank through DF.

[PwinkLogical]

ffxi > ffxiv mainly because of the community and also if you were a jerk you were known throughout the server.

[Pandastirfry]

ffxi > ffxiv mainly because of the community and also if you were a jerk you were known throughout the server.

Ah, the greatest MYTH the FFXI community ever told itself, that this kind of thing EVER happened. You might have become "notorious" to a handful of link shells, but an equal number would think your "jerk" was Rick-freakin'-Astley.

Like for instance, I became "notorious" to a linkshell "for being a jerk". Later I partied with one of their members and they told me how I was blacklisted by the majority of their linkshell because I had been mean to one if their members who was just "joking around". Well, I told them HOW their buddy was "just joking around". He was making rascit/homophobic jokes to the Japanese member of our party and I finally told them to shut up, and that his behavior was intolerable. Needless to say this cane as a huge surprise to this linkshell mate, as his buddy had conviently left that part out of his story about how I was mean to him.

[Linadae]

What made FF11 community special was the fact that server populations wasn't much larger than a small town. Which meant that if you acted like an idiot it wouldn't take long before you were blisted by the entire server. Once that happened...well you couldn't level, do any of the storylines, or get endgame gear. Thus you had to make an entirely new character and do everything again. Which can take up to a year.

So basically both the game mechanics and the players enforced good behavior. Now...well leveling is so easy in both games that you can just hit level cap in a few days. So there's no consequences for when you act like a complete jerk.

[LoLo]

Less complaining, less entitlement, less selfishness, people had to work together to accomplish anything past level 15, people where helpful because of that, people wanted to put in time to accomplish things in the game instead of how people in this game want to get everything now, now, now.

[Ferr]

Less complaining, less entitlement, less selfishness,

Tell that to the multiple jobs that were excluded from EXP parties.

What made FF11 community special was the fact that server populations wasn't much larger than a small town. Which meant that if you acted like an idiot it wouldn't take long before you were blisted by the entire server.

Thats not really true. There was lots of jerks and idiots completing everything, including the best endgame gear. Even if they get blisted by some people, they just reagrupped on other HNMLs.

[roohan]

In my opinion it's mostly nostalgia. Yes the community was cool sometimes and I do still remember lots of moments. But I also had lots of situations where relying on others simply sucked. Like person X going afk and the whole group had to wait or at least got slowed down. Or people force disconnecting after they got their drop. Or the competition between groups on certain NMs. One thing that comes into my mind here is yinyang robe. You bring at least 2 people everytime to claim an invisible NM that pops every 72? hours. This was a total bitch fight between people in that zone. Again I had lots of good moments also. Yes I did meet lots of helpful people. But I can't forget the downsides of FFXI. The community changed with the introduction of abyssea too. The moment the game started on easy mode alot of selfish people started to pop up in the game.

[Husband]

You can play FFXI, the game still running ya know.

The FFXI I mentioned and love is not still running. It died a long time ago.

I did also say I love ARR

[Grundy]

The FFXI I mentioned and love is not still running. It died a long time ago.

I did also say I love ARR

I'm curious, what killed FFXI for you? I quit around about the time A Moogle Kupo D'etat was released, I couldn't believe I had paid good money for that, and by then I was sick to death of waiting for WotG to finish. I briefly contemplated a return when I heard about Abyssea, but didn't. It makes me sad now to think that a BST can solo farm coins in Dynamis.

Funny thing is, I don't really miss the game, but I do miss my linkshell.