We cannot tolerate this...

[Livilda]

I stand by my original comment. You chose to be the disruptive one. You decided to cast out decency and "troll". You are the problem.

So you want me to stay quiet when I see something I think is not only inane but also damaging the community by intimidating and discouraging newcomers? Newsflash: the current endgame, if /shout in RT is any indication, is about as welcoming as finding a job out of college with no experience, so by the Twelve you had sure as hell better believe I'm going to drop a few sarcastic lines like: {Looking for members.} {The Howling Eye (Hard)} Must have blue eyes, blonde hair, white skin, and no disfiguring traits. Must have 4 years experience in JQuery.

[Noahlimits]

So you want me to stay quiet when I see something I think is not only inane but also damaging the community by intimidating and discouraging newcomers?

When I was a newbie I didn't think twice when someone asked for a relic or specifically geared/experienced party. It didn't discourage me or make me not want to play. I understood that they had their own reasons to ask for what they were doing. Whether it was for a speed run, or just for epeen, it didn't really concern me. It was their party and they could do whatever they wanted to do. I know I don't speak for all people that were new, but that's my point of view. I knew I could always shout for my own party or do DF.

[BobtheBlackMage]

So you want me to stay quiet when I see something I think is not only inane but also damaging the community by intimidating and discouraging newcomers?

How about instead of being an ass, you start your own run. Be productive, not destructive. Your actions were much more damaging to the community by engendering hostility.

[gamesmart]

How about instead of being an ass, you start your own run. Be productive, not destructive. Your actions were much more damaging to the community by engendering hostility.

You weren't there to see the chat, how do you know there was hostility? (Although there's a good chance there was)

[BobtheBlackMage]

You weren't there to see the chat, how do you know there was hostility? (Although there's a good chance there was)

He/she described it as "trolling", with an overall tone of pride. Seems pretty obvious.

[gamesmart]

He/she described it as "trolling", with an overall tone of pride. Seems pretty obvious.

Not that obvious, since it's not always true. Clever trolling usually doesn't anger people - they usually won't realize they've been trolled until later, at which point any reasonable person would just laugh it off and move on. It's not confined to personal attacks.

[Livilda]

Your actions were much more damaging to the community by engendering hostility.

Quantitative proof, please.

See how stupid, belittling and enflaming what I just asked you for sounds?

You weren't there to see the chat, how do you know there was hostility? (Although there's a good chance there was)

Not that much, actually. It's just that the perceived definition of 'trolling' seems to have changed while I wasn't looking from 'harmless baiting' to 'malicious attacks'.

[BobtheBlackMage]

Quantitative proof, please.

See how stupid, belittling and enflaming what I just asked you for sounds?

Not that much, actually. It's just that the perceived definition of 'trolling' seems to have changed while I wasn't looking from 'harmless baiting' to 'malicious attacks'.

See that second line? That smug, self-satisfied tone evidenced by your malicious mangling of my chosen verbiage?

That is the inflammatory nonsense that points to your impacted social skills. Every time you show flagrant disregard for other player's agency, every time you decided to parade yourself as superior by demanding proof from players who probably want nothing to do with you, you bring the entire community down.

Job well done.