Amount of HQ items RIDONCULOUS!

[scarebearz]

Unless you're being nitpicky and talking about some 40 durability material recipes, I don't see a reason you'd find that implausible.

It may seem "nitpicky" to you, but personally I don't like seeing endless shouts of people talking bull. I.e. "Master Craftsman - 100% HQ *Any Recipe* using NQ mats" etc etc.

A lot of these people are not even using 80 dura rotations/gears that give a certain 100% outcome.

[Nenin]

They may claim this in shouts (like you see all day on Odin), but I do have my doubts about "100% every single recipe".

I guess if you count 40 durability recipes it's fair to say that you can't 100% HQ EVERYTHING but it seems like a useless distinction.

The 40 durability ones are never final products. They are always ingredients for 80 durability synths which can easily be HQ'd using all NQ ingredients anyway.



edit - Also, the people responding to those shouts are rarely crafters themselves so adding in "100% HQ using all NQ mats on all 80 durability synths" wouldn't mean anything to them.

[scarebearz]

The 40 durability ones are never final products.

Actually for many crafter's these are their "end products", there are a lot of people out their willing to pay you to HQ 2 star mats, there is also a decent market for selling them. e.g. HQ Hard Hippogryph Leather.

I've made dozens of HQ 2 star mats either for customers or to sell.

[Atreides]

I think some people are just blinded by the amout of HQ items on the market.
The truth behind is that NQ items are simply worthless and are either vendored or discarded on the spot.

[Nenin]

Actually for many crafter's these are their "end products", there are a lot of people out their willing to pay you to HQ 2 star mats, there is also a decent market for selling them. e.g. HQ Hard Hippogryph Leather.

I've made dozens of HQ 2 star mats either for customers or to sell.

Odin is not a legacy server right?


it's probably just different here because everyone and their mother is 50 with all 8 crafts.

[scarebearz]

Odin is not a legacy server right?


it's probably just different here because everyone and their mother is 50 with all 8 crafts.

Yeah, Odin is a non-Legacy server.

My customers for these are usually lesser geared (or less cross class skills) fellow crafter's who want to have a go at making their own 2 star items or people who thinking buying the mat HQ will improve the odds of HQ for whatever crafter they chose.

The market for the above was very good gil for some time, less now, but still getting plenty of requests to make them for people.

[Pines]

People are overlooking the actual problem here -- There is no specialization.

Anyone can do anything in this game, and the more time passes the worse it will get as markets reach saturation.

[gamersince1976]

I'm all for adding HQ2 to crafting - it would provide an added challenge. Sadly, I don't see that happening. The crafting system isn't a focus of the dev team, with the exception of furniture.

As for the earlier comments regarding 100% HQ being misleading - it depends on your cross class. It's not bragging. I can 100% HQ every 70/80 recipe up to 1 star. Hundreds of times in a row, in fact - as I seem to have become my FC's Coil food provider. There's absolutely no RNG built into the rotation.

Then again, I don't go shouting about it, either.

[Nenin]

As for the earlier comments regarding 100% HQ being misleading - it depends on your cross class. It's not bragging. I can 100% HQ every 70/80 recipe up to 1 star. Hundreds of times in a row, in fact - as I seem to have become my FC's Coil food provider. There's absolutely no RNG built into the rotation.

Then again, I don't go shouting about it, either.

The issue wasn't about whether or not the person shouting could HQ most recipes. That's perfectly reasonable even for 2-star 80 durability crafts. It was about how claiming 100% HQ with all recipes is technically a lie because of 40 durability 2-star recipes.



There are quite a few rotations to HQ everything else without relying on RNG at all. These can be turned into macros as you know because they only use abilities with 100% chance to succeed, they assume no Good/Excellent conditions, and the last few moves can be shifted to avoid using Byregot's Blessing on an unlikely Poor condition.

There is no rotation that meets all of the above conditions for 2-star 40 durability crafts though. Even with max stats and all abilities you can't guarantee HQ with absolute certainty.

[Jynx]

Yeah, the fact that you can pretty much guarantee HQ on top tier items is a little silly.

You can actually guarantee a 100% sucsess rate rather easilly, with the right gear and abillities.

Even with max stats and all abilities you can't guarantee HQ with absolute certainty.

Why would anyone care about getting HQ materials when they have 0 chance to fail the gear synth? being able to HQ 40 dura items is useless.