47 ifrit kills, 7 garuda kills... NO SPEAR DROPPED AT ALL

[Zerosix]

OMG please for the love of this game make a token system so I do not have to bash face anymore.

(EDIT) 48 ifrit kills and 13 garuda kills, no spear.

(EDIT) Did titan in an undergeared group for relic! Win... luckily they took me.

[Raenryong]

Primal fights are laughably horrible design and will drive away a great number of players, I fully agree.

[Xbob42]

The really sad part is me and a friend both got our Ifrit weapons on our first run. He got his Garuda weapon on his first run and I got mine on like my third. But then I know some people who run it multiple times per day who've never even seen their classes' weapon drop. Maybe drop 2? Why drop 1 item for 8 peoples' work? Clearly you can't have 8 drop, that'd be silly, but 1 is kinda sad.

[mikoto_qc]

most of time i see book for smn drop.....

[Fuz]

As I said somewhere else... at the moment I'm at 60+ Ifrit runs and a dozen Garuda. Never seen a lance drop even once.
I'm not able to express of extremely tired and deeply nauseated I am by this.

This is terrible design.

[Little_Gray]

As I said somewhere else... at the moment I'm at 60+ Ifrit runs and a dozen Garuda. Never seen a lance drop even once.
I'm not able to express of extremely tired and deeply nauseated I am by this.

This is terrible design.

Its called a random drop chance. All of the weapons have the same chance to drop you have just been having some bad luck. If you cant deal with that then you probably should not be playing an mmo or at least raiding.

[kormethar]

Its called a random drop chance. All of the weapons have the same chance to drop you have just been having some bad luck. If you cant deal with that then you probably should not be playing an mmo or at least raiding.

NO ! They are not !
more than 40 ifrit and 10 garuda only saw a WHM weapon only 1 times. It is even worse for fuz. So not only back luck

[nekomtl]

47x Ifirit, a bow finally drops, another BRD in same party out lot me.... to add salt, that was his/her first time at Ifirit....

[dragonflyseksparade]

47x Ifirit, a bow finally drops, another BRD in same party out lot me.... to add salt, that was his/her first time at Ifirit....

I don't like the idea of tokens to trade for a weapon. But this is one case that would absolutely infuriate me.

It'd be cool if they had tokens that would increase your roll based on the number of times you'd been there on a given job. That way 1st timers couldn't steal from people like yourself.

I was on the opposite end of this, I got my staff on 2nd try, and the other whm said it was his 20th try and I outrolled him. I felt bad, but I'm not going to pass on an item thats a huge upgrade after I put in effort also, you know?

[godwin]

Needs to be returned to the v1 drop system. Where every pops a chest and takes their chances for weapons and maybe totems (1-3) at least then ppl won't need to fight for drop and u can possibly just get more to me stones for totems.