Absence of end-game content : the downfall of every MMO.

[Aragor]

... and FF14 ARR doesn't avoid that. The honey-moon when you reachlvl 50 lasts what? A month at best? Unless you're really bad or super casual, it's not gonna take long for you to kill the HM primals, get your relic, mess around in Coil and be decently geared from thos brain-dead CM/AK runs.

Once that is done, what is left? "Level other classes!" some people say... But who wants to grind fates non-stop for days? Run dungeons? Please... the XP gained in those is absurd.

Level your crafting/gathering profession? Yeah well it's kinda fun for a short while... until you're sitting on 1M gil and wonder "is there anything worth using that money on?". The answer is no btw. Not even talking about those flawed professions providing near to nothing relevant.

Since they announced that Crystal Tower would be a walk in the park to farm sub-Coil quality gear, all of my friends gave up on this game and I'm doing the same now. Too much attention is given to esthetism and RP and not enough to content. The introduction of dailies is not gonna improve anything. Levequest were close enough in term of boring repeatable content with meh rewards.

To keep players hooked to a game the recipe is simple : a large diversity of dungeons and raids to run with relevant rewards, PvP and the possibility to level different classes in an enjoyable way (please avoid the suggestion of making new toons to level other jobs with quests, the main feature of FF is to have all those jobs on one toon).

I don't see how the devs are going to make PvP viable with the terrible delay between actions, but I hope they work on the end-game more than on what is cute and sparkly (housing? really!?). This game has a lot of potential.

[TrickedOutHoro]

That's the price you have to pay when you get into an MMO in it's earliest stages.

[Sayura_]

That's the price you have to pay when you get into an MMO in it's earliest stages.

I have to disagree. My friends and I (full-time jobs) in recent mmos got 1.5 years out of Aion, 6mo out of SWTOR, 1 year out of GW2, and we're feeling the boredom now after 2mo in FFXIV. We're waiting it out until the new patch because we do like the game but you can't say we have to "pay the price" when competing mmos don't see these issues 2 months in. IMO all those games had some sort of pvp so our interest was kept.

[TrickedOutHoro]

I have to disagree. My friends and I (full-time jobs) in recent mmos got 1.5 years out of Aion, 6mo out of SWTOR, 1 year out of GW2, and we're feeling the boredom now after 2mo in FFXIV. We're waiting it out until the new patch because we do like the game but you can't say we have to "pay the price" when competing mmos don't see these issues 2 months in. IMO all those games had some sort of pvp so our interest was kept.

I can say it, and I will continue doing so. You only have yourself to blame if you go into a launch MMO and complain of lack of endgame content.

[Sayura_]

I can say it, and I will continue doing so. You only have yourself to blame if you go into a launch MMO and complain of lack of endgame content.

Uhm nope, I have lack of end game content and pvp.

It's called disagreeing not complaining.

[TrickedOutHoro]

Uhm nope, I have lack of end game content and pvp.

It's called disagreeing not complaining.

For the third time then, blame yourself. It was common knowledge before the game launched that PVP would not be available until 2.1

:-)

[Sybreed]

I can say it, and I will continue doing so. You only have yourself to blame if you go into a launch MMO and complain of lack of endgame content.

The funny thing is, I came to this game from GW2, a game that I played since beta weekend even #2. The entire time GW2 has been out, on both the official forums and GW2 Guru, the #1 complaint has been "omg dis game has zero endgame, I'm soooo bored, this game phails!!1". And yet we have this person here saying GW2 lasted them a year, and this game only 2 months? Really goes to show different strokes for different folks. These complaints are so often based on personal preference, perspective, and play habits, yet they're presented as stone cold objective facts.

[TrickedOutHoro]

The funny thing is, I came to this game from GW2, a game that I played since beta weekend even #2. The entire time GW2 has been out, on both the official forums and GW2 Guru, the #1 complaint has been "omg dis game has zero endgame, I'm soooo bored, this game phails!!1". And yet we have this person here saying GW2 lasted them a year, and this game only 2 months? Really goes to show different strokes for different folks. These complaints are so often based on personal preference, perspective, and play habits, yet they're presented as stone cold objective facts.

Indeed. I was about to write her off as simply delusional upon hearing she played SWTOR for 6 months, but different strokes for different folks!

[Sayura_]

The funny thing is, I came to this game from GW2, a game that I played since beta weekend even #2. The entire time GW2 has been out, on both the official forums and GW2 Guru, the #1 complaint has been "omg dis game has zero endgame, I'm soooo bored, this game phails!!1". And yet we have this person here saying GW2 lasted them a year, and this game only 2 months? Really goes to show different strokes for different folks. These complaints are so often based on personal preference, perspective, and play habits, yet they're presented as stone cold objective facts.

It's not fact, but an opinion. Welcome to this thing called forums.

[Haoma]

I have to disagree. My friends and I (full-time jobs) in recent mmos got 1.5 years out of Aion, 6mo out of SWTOR, 1 year out of GW2, and we're feeling the boredom now after 2mo in FFXIV. We're waiting it out until the new patch because we do like the game but you can't say we have to "pay the price" when competing mmos don't see these issues 2 months in. IMO all those games had some sort of pvp so our interest was kept.

PvP isn't endgame so that's a moot point.