Internal Release & Crit Rate

[chococo]

Oh wow, this is the first MMO that I've played that crit hit rate and chance is different. or maybe the term is just too confusing

Edit:
On another note, I tried using the simulator in the link, and checked Internal Release and pressed Calculate, and it does increase Critical Hit Chance.

Internal Release description is Increase Critical Hit Rate by 20% and going by the link you've posted, it does increase the Critical Hit Chance, so Critical Hit Rate = Critical Hit Chance.

It does increase the chance but not by a flat rate of 20%. Try it again. All it does is increase your crit hit rate by 20% and give you the corresponding crit chance.

e.g. at 341 crit hit rate (default in calculator) = 5.15% crit hit chance
at 341 with 20% IR ticked = 9.87% crit hit chance
at 409 (=341x1.2) without IR ticked = 9.86% crit hit chance

[MagoArcano]

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[NefGP]

Yeah, they are not the same thing. Critical Hit Rate is measured against your target (idk what stats specifically, in FFXI it was DEX vs target AGI though I'm oversimplifying it) to give you your actual chance to land a critical hit.


So it would appear my initial hunch may be correct, though some math to back that up would be better.

[NefGP]

Rate doesn't = chance, period.

IIRC, @ 50 it's been found that roughly every 13.8 (round up to 14) Crit Rate = +1% chance to crit.

[Thorauku]

Rate doesn't = chance, period.

IIRC, @ 50 it's been found that roughly every 13.8 (round up to 14) Crit Rate = +1% chance to crit.

I have some basis on what I'm saying, where's yours?

[Allyrion]

To clear up all this confusion, Critical Hit Rate in the character screen should be called "Critical Hit Rating".
The current form is wrong and misleading. It is either a typo or someone doesn't know the difference.
Critical hit rate = Critical hit chance =/= Critical hit rating
Rating is the arbitrary number used to affect the rate of critical hits.

Either way, if IR is multiplicative then why isn't the rating in the character window changed.
Skill speed changes with selene's buff and there are other examples. Why does IR not change your stats?

I agree with Powercow, pandabearcat (who has made her own sim) and Ephier that it seems to be additive.
That other simulator might just be based on an assumption as well. I don't see any backing.

[Thorauku]

Ye, it's really confusing. One way to solve this is for devs to add a feature on when you hover your pointer to the specific stat. it'll show the % of that stat.

That way, theorycrafters will have an easier way on figuring things out. And not just base on assumptions as it seems really pointless.

[NefGP]

^ pretty much. But then reading comprehension is incredibly hard for some people. The Rating is a seemingly arbitrary number that gets applied to the crit formula (whatever that formula may be, I don't personally have it written down or anything) with the end result of that being your critical hit chance.


And I agree that wording is done very badly, though that's nothing with SE - we had to deal with it for years in FFXI.