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  1. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mairuzu View Post
    When SE comes out and says this specific case is an abuse, then I'll admit you're right. Until then.... they don't compare. If a game allows you to start a party in progress then it should deliver. It sucks that the game does this to players and it should be fixed that gives everyone what they want, like it should be.
    You mean like this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings,

    The development team is aware of the fact that there are some players who will constantly withdraw when you are being matched with players via the Duty Finder. They plan on implementing countermeasures for this to decrease the frequency in which this happens
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  2. #132
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    Because most people are a bunch of sheeps who need someone else to tell them what is an abuse or isn't.
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    Last edited by ZohnoReecho; 11-08-2013 at 09:21 AM.

  3. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshnal View Post
    The option is not there for people that want to join an already started duty, but for those that don't mind or are willing to join one, no matter at what boss they're at.
    The option is there and no where does it state that its not for players that want to do it.

    Your argument that people should have enough sympathy to at least not spam it - I can agree with that and even I have stopped. But they don't have to and shouldn't get blamed for it. The devs should fix it so it works for everyone.
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  4. #134
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    I don't get why people are always saying 'but (official entity) didn't say it's wrong". It's pretty hard to enumerate everything that can possibly be wrong. Even the law, which is supposed to tell you everything that is wrong, cannot possibly write down every possible things you could possibly do that's against the law which is why there's a judicial system to fill in the rest. It's easy to see abusing the Duty Finder is certainly not something that'd add anything to the game. That said the detriment to the game is also very minor as the real effect it has is for some poor guy to hear the 'queue pop' sound 20 times before it actually happens. That said since it's pretty trivial to put in a fix that will greatly reduce this behavior (say, 30 second lockout after declining a Duty Finder), there's really no reason to not do it. I suppose one can argue there are more important things to fix, but since someone from SE actually responded to this, it's clear that for some reason this seems more worthy of attention than the 150 page thread on server lag, so they might as well fix it given we know this is one of the few issues they actually responded on.
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  5. #135
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephirah View Post
    You mean like this?
    They never said it was an abuse, but the fact that people are complaining makes them want to do something about it. Which is a result of how THEY made it.
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  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mairuzu View Post
    The option is there and no where does it state that its not for players that want to do it.

    Your argument that people should have enough sympathy to at least not spam it - I can agree with that and even I have stopped. But they don't have to and shouldn't get blamed for it. The devs should fix it so it works for everyone.
    Come on, but you know how it works, you said it yourself. So why complain? It's not a surprise, after all, that if it works like that it might be because they wanted to implement it that way. And if you have any doubts that that's not the way it was intended to be used, just look at what Sephirah quoted up there.

    Anyway, it honours you if you have stopped doing this
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    Last edited by Yshnal; 11-08-2013 at 09:24 AM.

  7. #137
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshnal View Post
    Come on, but you know how it works, you said it yourself. So why complain? It's not a surprise, after all. And if you have any doubts that that's not the way it was intended to be used, just look at what Sepirah quoted up there.

    Anyway, it honours you if you have stopped doing this

    I'm definitely aware of the issue and it should definitely be fixed (hopefully for the best) but I'm not going to blame anyone for wanting to do it. I blame the devs for not thinking this out.
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  8. 11-08-2013 10:46 AM
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  9. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazanko View Post
    Care to give us ANY details as what is being fixed or address as far as other "high priority tasks" go? Cause as of lately you guys seem to fail at communicating with the community. (✖╭╮✖)
    They are hard at work judging our doppelganger screenshots! :P
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    http://youtu.be/gGJPq1qmtrk - PLD Controller Tanking AK with no UI video

  10. #139
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    Do you honestly believe adding a penalty to players ((tanks and healers)) who refuse DF before a full group is sent in will solve anything? It wouldn't. It would make the situation worse and you know it.

    Tanks and healers would switch to only grouping with FC/LS mates and queue for DF leaving the solo players once again on the forums bitching about the long queue times. SE would present another statement about how they know of the issue and will work on fixing it while saying to themselves that the player-base made this bed and needs to lie in it.
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  11. #140
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    Mountain outta a molehill.

    If a tank bails your cue, then the next tank will hit your group.
    If the tank that bails never cued at all, then the next tank will hit your group.

    Some princess tank that only joins 3/4 runs isnt making your cue take longer. It has no effect whatsoever on your cue time. if they want to join some failed 1/3 group that wiped and waste their time, let them.

    SE can and should be working on a laundry list of real issues before wasting their dev time with these fabricated ones.
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