People abusing party in progress option

[Ulathskullsplitter]

Why would I have empathy/morality for random people that I don't even know nor care about? As a tank, I will fully take advantage of any situation that can make my life easier, and if it means burning people down to get on top, I will do it without hesitation. Stay mad.

The moral of this story? Tanks are terrible people.

Ok not all but too many in this game. The lack of tanks has caused the ones there are to get an inflated ego and think the game revolves around them. When Im in a DF queue im usually on a different class leveling. So every time it pops i have to stop what im doing and change classes and hope during that time the tank doesnt withdraw. Usually cant get into WP/AK until a tank has withdrawn about 30 times before one actually stays. There needs to be at least a minimum 30 second penalty for withdrawing.

[Ulathskullsplitter]

..we do not plan on giving penalties to these players who withdraw when you are getting ready to commence due to the fact that there is a possibility that players who do not have malicious intent could be penalized.

Malicious intent or not, there should be a penalty for withdrawing. When you sign up for duty finder you know that when you get a group you need to be ready and enter the dungeon. If you sign up for it and are not ready that is that players fault no matter what their intent is. The penalty doesnt have to be extreme, but a short lockout of 30 seconds (i prefer 5 minutes) or so will at least stop these tanks form spamming it until they get an in progress and ruining the game for everyone else.

Theres no reason to allow these tanks to keep doing this because someone queued and was unprepared and couldnt accept. Because guess what? That DPS that withdrew is already being penalized. They now have to wait another 20-? minutes to get it to pop again. Even healers have waits of 5 minutes or longer. The only ones effected by a short lockout would be the tanks who abuse it.

[Skuld]

As a player with limited time for full dungeon runs, my only option is to only accept a run at the stage that I can finish in time. Any action to stop this will to me only prove that SE only thinks of those with plenty of time on there hands. Casual players of which there are many pay the same amount of money to play as everyone else, so deserve to play the game to their time schedule. Again the little guy loses out.

No offense, but if u cant do a 30-14 min or even 6 if u run garuda with a good pt, why play a mmorpg?

[HorrorStory]

There should be a harsh penalty for withdrawing, simple as that. It boggles the mind how tanks can get away with this with no repercussion.

[Sephirah]

Why would I have empathy/morality for random people that I don't even know nor care about? As a tank, I will fully take advantage of any situation that can make my life easier, and if it means burning people down to get on top, I will do it without hesitation. Stay mad.

It saddens me to see tanks like you, out there giving us a bad name. The anonymity of the internet does not mean you get to be a complete and total, worthless waste of oxygen. I'm sorry that your life is so shitty that you "need" an outlet like an MMO to treat people this way, because I'm pretty sure if you acted like that in real life you'd get your ass kicked pretty quick.

You can't clear a dungeon by yourself, you need them just as much as they need you. I'm on turn 5 in coils and yet I've had AK groups that couldn't kill the last boss because their dps was too low, or they just couldn't get a hang of the mechanics.

[Mairuzu]

Most people support the OP and basically everyone agrees that it's childish behavior except the people who behave like that themselves. Oh yeah, he totally lost. Haha.

When you have a poor way of making an argument that makes you sound like a child, yeah, you lose.

[Delorean]

The penalty doesnt have to be extreme, but a short lockout of 30 seconds (i prefer 5 minutes) or so will at least stop these tanks form spamming it until they get an in progress and ruining the game for everyone else.

so dramatic

having to wait 5 more minutes for a tank that doesnt decline queues is "ruining" the game

lol

I really don't think that punishing a population of players that is already small is going to have any desired effect. People might avoid the DF just because a punishment was implemented.

But people are finally outgearing content or people have just quit the game altogether. Either way you cut it, the success rate of groups has gotten a lot higher.

More in progress groups lately have been so bad at the game (theres a difference between being new and bad) that I can see why a player left their group. But before then, I get the impression that player that left was pretty terrible or the group was undergeared/had a really bad composition.

[Yshnal]

Why would I have empathy/morality for random people that I don't even know nor care about? As a tank, I will fully take advantage of any situation that can make my life easier, and if it means burning people down to get on top, I will do it without hesitation. Stay mad.

Thanks for proving my point Flawless.

*Gives him a cookie, and then pats him on the back*

[Terius]

Why would I have empathy/morality for random people that I don't even know nor care about? As a tank, I will fully take advantage of any situation that can make my life easier, and if it means burning people down to get on top, I will do it without hesitation. Stay mad.

Oddly, I am amused and approve of this message.

[Mairuzu]

It's saddens me to see tanks like you, out there giving us a bad name. The anonymity of the internet does not mean you get to be a complete and total, worthless waste of oxygen......

You really shouldn't care about the opinions of those who generalize off one or even a few people anyways. Just saying

Its also not that anonymous. You can search for this player in game if you're on their server.

I still see no reason to blame a tank for taking advantage of an option the square enix implemented into the game. Its quite silly to strike at the branches and not the root.

Also, if you think the person you're quoting deserves to get their ass kicked for saying something then something is quite wrong with you and not them. That's pretty messed up. Despite the fact that you may disagree with them, its not enough to cause violence to them. Ever.