People abusing party in progress option

[xRitzx]

It's not just 30 seconds. When AK had the instance cap issues, after a withdraw, the party was thrown back. While someone withdraws, some other party that you could have joined might get filled. In the end it's like restarting the queue.

I don't know how the queues work exactly but I'm not sure it restarts the queue. In my experience, sometimes it does restart and sometimes it doesn't. For example, when I queued up for Titan hard mode sometimes people would back out of the queue. When they backed out, sometimes all the members would stay queued up and other times everyone would restart in the queue because I would be the only person in the queue. So it could cost more than 30 seconds and I'm sorry if I cost someone 40 minutes or more.

[Lissandra]

Um, a lot of the in-progress sessions I have joined was because the Tank left.

Ironically, the reason for the tank leaving is because the people I got matched up with using the in-progress option ended being jerks. And they wonder why their tank left? LOL

This can go both ways, honestly. I've met scores of under-geared tanks or tanks who can't hold aggro/threat properly (and don't use their skills correctly, even) and we all end up dying a lot. I usually am not the one to spout crap at them, but my other party members are always willing (mostly the healer).

An example I have from a DF party last night. Our tank was geared well, but surprisingly he had no solid knowledge of how a tank was played. He constantly lost aggro/threat, rarely flashed or shield lobbed, and loved to open with provoke (what?). The other DPS, whom played a tank usually, asked if he wanted some tips and all he was met with was silence. After several more minutes the healer was ready to bail. I opted out first and saved the tank and everyone else their 15 min lock-out timer.

[Mairuzu]

I'm sorry, but the morons here are you and all the other people who abuse such a system.
You mess other people queues, waste their time and then you also want to get easy points?

You are the scum of this community. You should get banned for stopping players from starting a run.

You lost bro. Give it up.

[Hiiiro]

Taking out the progress meter solves this doesn't it? Didn't read through the whole 10 pages, but I think it was mentioned as a WoW fix on the first one. Wasn't that /thread ?

[Kat_Manx]

You lost bro. Give it up.

Most people support the OP and basically everyone agrees that it's childish behavior except the people who behave like that themselves. Oh yeah, he totally lost. Haha.

[Astarica]

This is mostly an nonissue because it's basically a prisonner's dilemma and as long as you've more than one jerk in this world, all the jerks of the world lose from having to fend off other jerks. For the law abiding citizens all the jerks really do is make the annoying 'queue pop' noise 20 times in a row, but without those jerks your queue wouldn't even pretend to pop in the first place so it's not like you lost anything. In the interest of the game, there should be safeguards (I suggest 30s lockout for declining DF for any reason) just to protect people from their own stupidity, but in the grand scheme of things, the only guys who lose are the guys trying to cheat the system unless they're lucky enough to be doing this while no other jerks are trying the same thing.

[TerryQ1967]

And the battle rages on...

[Velveteer]

How to be efficent with the amount of free time your given without being an enormous entitled jerkwad:

I work 64-72 hours a week, 2-3 days of that is 16 hour shifts, and even I don't do this. I still manage to find groups to do Coil with, still manage to cap my myth tomes very quickly (10~20min runs), and have a couple relics already with several Ilvl 90 items. I've never had to queue hop to get that completed and still have more than enough time to do what is needed. I even have time to vpn into my work domain and do a few things from home also. You're reason is invalid and boils down to sheer laziness. Get used to it.

I too work, and I can almost go a week without playing. Even still if I have more than an hour of playtime I'll gather my friends, or even hop on a speedrun pug in mor dhona.
If I have less than that, then why bother? Another day.
No matter how you slice it, you're still inconveniencing others for the sake of your time and justifying it by "oh i'm so busy busy busy busy" doesn't make you innocent.

[TerryQ1967]

Instead of penalising players why not rotate the dungeons offered for people to join. You can't tell me that a game like this only has one version of each dungeon running at any one time.

[TeganLaron]

I'm not suggesting I agree with people who do this, but I wonder how many of those speaking out against it do speed-runs and the like. Because some of the tactics I've seen employed in speed runs are just as bad in terms of abusing the game in a way you're not meant to for your own gain. The same goes for FATEs such as DD before it was fixed.