People abusing party in progress option

[Syrellaris]

I fully agree, they should penalize this. heavily even. When it starts hurting, people will stop doing it. Right now, it is just hurting us dps as so forth while being spammed with stupid "party member has withdrawn messages"

Either that, or remove the possibility of seeing how many bosses are down.

[ZohnoReecho]

Seriously, stop blaming the people and blame the system that incentivizes them to behave this way. It's SE's fault.

"the system that incentivizes"? really?
damn you are right. car producers incentivate to run over people because you can!
avoid talking if you gonna spit such nonsense.

damn you SE, thinking that people have common sense.

[Gucci_Charms]

Um, a lot of the in-progress sessions I have joined was because the Tank left.

Ironically, the reason for the tank leaving is because the people I got matched up with using the in-progress option ended being jerks. And they wonder why their tank left? LOL

[Zeille]

Just run the full dungeon from the start like the rest of us.

I have all 3 roles unlocked and would never pull this stunt just to save myself some time and get some easier tomes. I could totally do this, but it's a selfish "I'ma gonna get mine, f*^& everyone else" way of playing.

(That is, referring to spamming join in progress and then withdrawing in the hopes you luck out. If you check it every now and then, no big deal)

[Frein]

"the system that incentivizes"? really?
damn you are right. car producers incentivate to run over people because you can!
avoid talking if you gonna spit such nonsense.

damn you SE, thinking that people have common sense.

How do car producers incentivize drivers to run over people? That's news to me. Do they offer bounties or something? Great comparison, or not. If you're going to post, think before you do.

[Astarica]

If you're waiting for 40 minutes for something to pop and you accidentlaly declined something and got hit by a 30 seconds lockout, the 30 second lockout isn't what's going to bother you. It's the fact that you're now going back to queue for probably another 40 minutes before it pops. The only class that has instant pops would be the tank, and honestly, there just aren't that many groups at 2/3 where the tank mysteriously had to go, and given AK/WP pretty much have no dependence on the tank whatsoever in the final boss, there's actually a pretty good chance that such a group is really bad. I think I've seen exactly once where a tank had to go at 2/3 in WP in all the times I've done it. It just doesn't happen very often. Even for the tank class, you could end up waiting for a rather long time to get that spot. Apparently people have no time to play this game but can easily take 20+ minutes trying to find a 2/3 progress wait spamming joins. It doesn't even really help you because you're not the only lazy guy out there who has suddenly figured this out, and it only works if you're a tank to begin with. If you tried that as a DPS it's pretty much always another 40 minutes wait in the queue.

[ZohnoReecho]

How do car producers incentivize drivers to run over people? That's news to me. Do they offer bounties or something? Great comparison, or not.

right, because SE told people "hey guyz, withdraw when you can so we give you a prize"

If you're going to post, think before you do.

please, follow your own advice

[Frein]

right, because SE told people "hey guyz, withdraw when you can so we give you a prize"

Yes, that's actually exactly what they told them. By withdrawing until you get a nearly completed run, you save time. They're REWARDING this type of behaviour, hence there are poor incentives built into the system.

A car manufacturer does not reward its clients for crashing their cars. When you drive over someone, you may damage your car and in general get into all kinds of nasty legal trouble. You're hardly incentivized to drive over someone. This is why your comparison was utterly moronic.

[ZohnoReecho]

Yes, that's actually exactly what they told them. By withdrawing until you get a nearly completed run, you save time. They're REWARDING this type of behaviour, hence there are poor incentives built into the system.

A car manufacturer does not reward its clients for crashing their cars. When you drive over someone, you may damage your car and in general get into all kinds of nasty legal trouble. You're hardly incentivized to drive over someone. This is why your comparison was utterly moronic.

I'm sorry, but the morons here are you and all the other people who abuse such a system.
You mess other people queues, waste their time and then you also want to get easy points?

You are the scum of this community. You should get banned for stopping players from starting a run.

[Astarica]

Nobody comes out ahead in this. The only way withdrawing helps you is if you are the only person in the world who is that lazy, but you'll quickly found out that plenty of other people are just as lazy as you that, ironically, is busy competing for those 2/3 slots. This is compounded by the fact that there is basically no incentive for a tank to leave a 2/3 AK/WP group unless that group is just terrible, so it's actually a pretty high-risk situation for the tank to join a 2/3 (though you should still always take the chance). This is one of those situation where players need to be protected from their own stupidity, but if SE choses to do nothing, it doesn't particularly bother me that someone who can get instant queue is spending 20+ minutes to get into a dungeon that can be finished in under 30 minutes easily.