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  1. #61
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    Kat_Manx's Avatar
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    Kat Fuzzington
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryQ1967 View Post
    No not lazy, we just don't have the time. That's why the join in progress is there. Get used to it.
    Actually the join in progress is there so that you MIGHT find a party in progress and it MIGHT help everyone finish the dungeon, not for people to abuse it. If your so called "good excuse" really is that you don't have enough time, you really, really should not be looking for dungeons. What I find amusing is that sometimes the time for those people to find a "proper" party is in fact longer than actually playing through the entire dungeon. Same for people ragequitting in "bad" parties and taking the 15 minute penalty: We are already done before you can even try to enter again.

    You know I should write names of these people down and if they happen to end up in a dungeon with me I'll just stop pressing attack buttons as a DPS. I mean I simply don't have the TIME to press buttons on my keyboard. I'm sure they'll understand my busy schedule.
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    Last edited by Kat_Manx; 11-07-2013 at 08:55 PM.

  2. #62
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    Lolo Landerlu
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 50
    must be working as intended. I'm rarely effected because I only do duty finder with my linkshells or FC
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  3. #63
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    Yshnal's Avatar
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    Nera Mistdancer
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TerryQ1967 View Post
    No not lazy, we just don't have the time. That's why the join in progress is there. Get used to it.
    Besides the fact that the join in progress is not there for that reason, what makes you think that your time is worth more than theirs? Keep in mind that you're screwing their queue and their chances to get a proper player that would like to do the full dungeon, thus making them having to wait longer than they should if you weren't abusing the system.
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  4. #64
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    Tegan Laron
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    I don't get why you are all going off at the people who have said they don't have time for full dungeons, as they are not the ones abusing the system. The people without time will queue up for an in-progress while doing other stuff. Then if they get one, great. If they don't, they'll just log off as intended.

    The people abusing it are the people who do have the time to sit there withdrawing over and over until they get a 2/3 progress pop. It is also more of a job specific problem than universal too. If a Tank/Healer withdraws, they have a good chance of getting another party instantly. If a DPS does it, back of the queue you go.
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  5. #65
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    Yshnal's Avatar
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    Nera Mistdancer
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    Omega
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeganLaron View Post
    I don't get why you are all going off at the people who have said they don't have time for full dungeons, as they are not the ones abusing the system. The people without time will queue up for an in-progress while doing other stuff. Then if they get one, great. If they don't, they'll just log off as intended.

    The people abusing it are the people who do have the time to sit there withdrawing over and over until they get a 2/3 progress pop. It is also more of a job specific problem than universal too. If a Tank/Healer withdraws, they have a good chance of getting another party instantly. If a DPS does it, back of the queue you go.
    We are just replying to those that abuse the system and that have said that they do it because they don't have time. If it's true or not is beyond the point; the fact is that they somehow think that their time is more important than that of the rest of the players (that might really don't have a lot of time, unlike them).
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  6. #66
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    Ritz Blitz
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    It hasn't been mentioned here yet, but this is just more reason for having various ways of obtaining myth such as daily quests (which are coming in 2.1). If someone still decides to do drop out of queues when they have an option to do a solo quest for 15 minutes that rewards myth then there is definitely a problem.
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  7. #67
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    Zohno Reecho
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryQ1967 View Post
    No not lazy, we just don't have the time. That's why the join in progress is there. Get used to it.
    If you don't have time to spend gaming you should change priorities in your life then, or change game.
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meklore View Post
    Just make the number of tomes received a percentage of the dungeon completed. (i.e. if they complete 20% of the dungeon, they get 20% of the tomes)

    This, so much this.
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    SE response - Please look forward to it!


  9. #69
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    They should just add another option to filter new dungeons out if you only want to join a in progress dungeon. This saves everyone the hassle.
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  10. #70
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    Frein Mannis
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Yshnal View Post
    Besides the fact that the join in progress is not there for that reason, what makes you think that your time is worth more than theirs? Keep in mind that you're screwing their queue and their chances to get a proper player that would like to do the full dungeon, thus making them having to wait longer than they should if you weren't abusing the system.
    Why would't their time be more valuable to them than your time? It'd be pretty damn unusual if they cared about your time more than their own. Seriously, stop blaming the people and blame the system that incentivizes them to behave this way. It's SE's fault.

    Quote Originally Posted by TeganLaron View Post
    It is also more of a job specific problem than universal too. If a Tank/Healer withdraws, they have a good chance of getting another party instantly. If a DPS does it, back of the queue you go.
    Actually, healers have enormous queues as well. I get 20+ min queues on Scholar all the time.
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