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  1. #51
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    TerryQ1967's Avatar
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    As a player with limited time for full dungeon runs, my only option is to only accept a run at the stage that I can finish in time. Any action to stop this will to me only prove that SE only thinks of those with plenty of time on there hands. Casual players of which there are many pay the same amount of money to play as everyone else, so deserve to play the game to their time schedule. Again the little guy loses out.
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  2. #52
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    Aegis Elisus
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryQ1967 View Post
    As a player with limited time for full dungeon runs, my only option is to only accept a run at the stage that I can finish in time. Any action to stop this will to me only prove that SE only thinks of those with plenty of time on there hands. Casual players of which there are many pay the same amount of money to play as everyone else, so deserve to play the game to their time schedule. Again the little guy loses out.
    20-40 mins is 'too long'?
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  3. #53
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    Freaky Priest
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Someone who doesn't have the time to complete like a 30 minute dungeon should not be queueing up for a dungeon. It's as simple as that. This has nothing to do with casuals, little people or anything, MMORPGs simply aren't meant for people that can only play 10 minutes at a time. You got single player games with a pause/save button for that, not MMORPGs.

    Saying that you should be able to do dungeons in 10 minutes because you don't have enough time otherwise is the same as saying that Coil should be super easy and doable in AF gear with a random GC weapon, because you want to do it and having to farm DL/Relic is mean and SE is screwing over the, what was it? "Little guys"? Simply no. Just like Coil wasn't meant to be completed by everyone, dungeons are not content for people that have no time. The one to blame here are not SE, it's people like you that expect to get everything, even though you don't want to put in the work you should.
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  4. #54
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    TerryQ1967's Avatar
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    Tal F'ash
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    If the parties I have joined actually took a minimum time to complete dungeons, I would not have made my comment. With wait times for some dungeons still at a high, and not always getting a good group, you can be taking 2 hours for a dungeon. Again for the best results you have to play the game at peak times. Which is not always possible, the majority that disagree obviously are able to play the game at times that give them all the right conditions.

    I pay to play this game because I like this game.

    Wanting to play the game the way it should be played and having the time to do just that are two different things, and been penalised for it should not be an option.
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  5. #55
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    Kat Fuzzington
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    Quote Originally Posted by Losian View Post
    It does when you have to wait 40 minutes for a dungeon and happen to suddenly be in the middle of something else/dinner/etc. that you had to do while you were sitting in a game doing nothing otherwise.
    You misunderstood. If that happened to you, you would withdraw only once. Not 10 times within a 2 minute span. You'd be safe.
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  6. #56
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    Mosus Reed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Losian View Post
    It does when you have to wait 40 minutes for a dungeon and happen to suddenly be in the middle of something else/dinner/etc. that you had to do while you were sitting in a game doing nothing otherwise.
    I think you misread what they said, 10 times in 2 minutes is impossible if you're afk. the timer is 40/50 seconds? to accept.
    Quote Originally Posted by HumsterMKX View Post
    You probably need to top it up with %.
    Example: AK
    1st boss, 15 tombs
    2nd boss, 60tombs
    3rd boss, 15 tombs

    Why wall gets most tombs? Simple, if someone fishing for last boss, they get only 15. If someone just wanna rage quit, they will think about at least clearing the Wall.

    This way, ppl need to at least TRY to complete up to 1/2 the dungoens.

    Problem with this is, you will see more "speed runs"
    This presents a problem unless you split the myth tomes over the 3 bosses then they will still only want the last boss.
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  7. #57
    Player TeganLaron's Avatar
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    Tegan Laron
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomTom1968 View Post
    People who try to enter running quests in order to finish them quicker are just lazy and egoistic in my book. Nice for you that you can benefit from other people's progress but do you ever think about how YOU benefit the group?
    You benefit the group by helping them actually finish the dungeon. Whether for legitimate reasons or just a rage quit, someone has left that party. Meaning if there was no ability for someone to step in and finish it, all their progress would be lost.

    There's no denying this is a problem for people queuing up, but I've never seen anyone complain when I've joined in progress to help a group finish a dungeon.
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  8. #58
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    TerryQ1967's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomTom1968 View Post

    People who try to enter running quests in order to finish them quicker are just lazy and egoistic in my book..
    No not lazy, we just don't have the time. That's why the join in progress is there. Get used to it.
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  9. #59
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    Krell Ynjynor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat_Manx View Post
    Couldn't you apply the penalty to a player that withdraws like... 10 times within 2 minutes or something? That doesn't happen "accidentally."
    they could but then the universe would impolde if SE did anything that made sense
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  10. #60
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    Danira Sunspear
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    Moogle
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by TerryQ1967 View Post
    No not lazy, we just don't have the time. That's why the join in progress is there. Get used to it.
    Yes lazy, and no, its not why its there.... Its there so groups in the dungeon can replenish their ranks if they lose someone for whatever reason.

    NOT for you to specifically, and only look for those groups and spam withdraw till you get one.

    On another note, if you don't have the time then you don't have the time, end of. If I didn't have the time to do things properly I wouldn't bother until I did.

    Before you suggest otherwise, I have a full time job etc and can manage 2 or so hours an evening and I manage to do things in full and not be lazy. I cant believe you have less and still pay for this game.
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