People abusing party in progress option

[amnie]

Yes. I go into these 0/4, 1/4 dungeons and carry them to the finish line. All that is needed is a little patience and happy feelings.

I can't even count how often I entered a dungeon on my whm where the group was at the first boss. my reaction is asking 'healer ragequit?' and 99% of the time people say 'yes'. I do not remember ever having the group actually being bad. (though timer works against us often)

but that also is in line with my experience when a tank decides to ditch the group (or healer when I don't heal)

I really weep for these people because they are obviously used to being carried and not used to actually putting their weight
they expect flawless runs, doing little to nothing, in far outleveled grey gear (I am not 50) and moan because the first boss in brayflox eats them. (I can .not. heal through that. I can't do more than spam cure. no, I can't cast regen on you either; I'm downsynched to 34. though I doubt you'd be able to hold aggro)

[Losian]

Couldn't you apply the penalty to a player that withdraws like... 10 times within 2 minutes or something? That doesn't happen "accidentally."

It does when you have to wait 40 minutes for a dungeon and happen to suddenly be in the middle of something else/dinner/etc. that you had to do while you were sitting in a game doing nothing otherwise.

[blowfin]

The main reason why people leaving duties in progress is not that they only want to join a nearly finish duty. If they want that kind of duties they'll know before joining since the DF window will tell them that it's 2/3, 3/4, etc.

It's because they examined your gears and they think it's not worth playing with you. joining duties in progress will be ok if you join the ones that doing good but had someone disconnected. a lot of parties ended up getting wiped at some point so some member ditched the other members, if the Duty Finder send me to a party like that I'm gonna leave too and I don't think I've done anything wrong doing so.

Yes but this thread isn't about people leaving the dungeon halfway through, it's about people spamming withdraw in DF until they get a group in progress.

[TomTom1968]

Dunno if SE can really do something about it. Penalties always have a danger to hit the wrong ones. Maybe a check that can distinguish between DC and abandoning and also checking the frequenzy might be something to look into deeper. But no matter what happens, it won't change people's minds and attitudes so it is up to the so called "community" as far as I see it.

I see a lot of Egoism and Elitism in public Games and even in my guild, I see certain players playing for themselves and nobody else. Need help? If I need something from the dungeon too it is alright but otherwise go the hell away from me.

People who try to enter running quests in order to finish them quicker are just lazy and egoistic in my book. Nice for you that you can benefit from other people's progress but do you ever think about how YOU benefit the group? The rest is not playing to push you quicker through the Game but instead, they maybe want to progress as well? And what do the quick progress guys achieve? Beeing able to moan and complain sooner that there is not enough content? Showing the world how outstanding they and their e-Penis are? I don't get it.

[Guevara]

Just give us two options when joining a DF queue:

- join ALSO party in progress;
- join ONLY party in progress.

That would solve a lot of problems.

[TomTom1968]

^^ no that would make the problem bigger imo. An option to ONLY join running games is good for the quick progress guys and last thing we need is to pamper them. They need a behaviour check and no option that suits their egoism even better.

[ZohnoReecho]

I joined 0/? or 1/? with parties that just lost a member because of d/c or any other issue. It's not always because they cannot beat a boss.
And those who cannot deal with a full dungeon are pathetic. You are no better than those people who cannot beat the first boss.

Please Camate, just remove the dungeon progress. That should be faster to fix and could get it done even before 2.1 patch. If they wanna join only max-1/max they'll deal with the penalty. And avoid adding a party in progress only option, there would be no more new parties out there.

[Aegis]

Just make the number of tomes received a percentage of the dungeon completed. (i.e. if they complete 20% of the dungeon, they get 20% of the tomes)

This. I can't see why anyone would have a problem with this.

As far as not joining AK at 1/3 goes, when I queue as BLM I don't worry about it. As long as the tank is half-way adequate and can hold the bugs I can solo DPS the wall down before it's two repels away from the purple goo.

When I queue as Tank... well I queue for WP anyway, it's just faster.

[HumsterMKX]

This. I can't see why anyone would have a problem with this.

You probably need to top it up with %.
Example: AK
1st boss, 15 tombs
2nd boss, 60tombs
3rd boss, 15 tombs

Why wall gets most tombs? Simple, if someone fishing for last boss, they get only 15. If someone just wanna rage quit, they will think about at least clearing the Wall.

This way, ppl need to at least TRY to complete up to 1/2 the dungoens.

Problem with this is, you will see more "speed runs"

[ReyGaspar]

You know what's even worst?

As a DPS, I once joined a Cutter's Cry party via the DF. There was a lvl 50 tank, who ran straight into the first group of mobs as soon as we start.
Once everyone helped cleaned up the mess....

Tank: "I am only here for the Sand Bat"
Tank: "gl"
Tank leaves the party

45mins of wait just to see this...(┛◉Д◉)┛彡┻━┻