People abusing party in progress option

[amnie]

so, I've been to busy farming mats the last 2 weeks, and now I read something about a penalty for declining duty finder.
this makes me wonder:
has the bug that sends you into a finished dungeon be fixed yet? lucky enough that has only happened to me on a healer so far that I had to read 3/3 or 4/4 so the queue time wasn't so bad, but annoying it was either way and of course I denied that pop..

[Dreamer]

A full page talking about penalizing. Why not just give the system more flexibility - make it so that you can click to only join groups in progress. Problem solved.

[blowfin]

People using this system to get into runs where a tank/healer DCed/had to leave just before the final boss are just being jerks. Nothing more, nothing less and they really shouldn't be trying to justify their behavior.

Pretty much this, I always wondered why (in particular tanks) did this to groups in DF. You get maybe 10-15 withdrawals before getting a full party. It's got better recently but was really horrible in the first month or so of release.

Now that I know the reason, I'm dumbfounded that people are so lazy and try to justify wasting other people's time to serve their own purposes. That's really what it boils down to. Not to mention that fact that the time people waste looking for an in progress group could be used to actually complete the dungeon normally. Don't know what the average time for finding an in progress group is, but it must take quite a while sometimes.

[Lafier]

Greetings,

The development team is aware of the fact that there are some players who will constantly withdraw when you are being matched with players via the Duty Finder. They plan on implementing countermeasures for this to decrease the frequency in which this happens; however, they will not be able to address this right away as there are other wrapped up with other high priority tasks. On another note regarding this, we do not plan on giving penalties to these players who withdraw when you are getting ready to commence due to the fact that there is a possibility that players who do not have malicious intent could be penalized.

We apologize for the inconvenience and appreciate your understanding.

Tell me where you see talk of giving penalties?

[blowfin]

On the plus side, this should get better with 2.1. Certainly after we get iLvl restrictions, there's going to be much fewer reasons for people to abandon groups. Which will decrease the opportunity for people to join in progress.

[Astarica]

So wait. People are seriously justifying only joining runs that are almost done? Seriously? And then people complain about elitists and what not.....

But it doesn't even really matter, because anyone who has 'join group in progress' should know an AK 2/3 is likely an easy 40 mstone for almost no work. The guys who don't have the setting checked would never be competing against you, and anyone who has it checked should take the obvious 2/3 queue pops. So in the end excuses are just that, excuses, and you don't even come out ahead because there isn't some fantasy world where people are declining the 2/3 queue pops.

[Reiterpallasch]

A full page talking about penalizing. Why not just give the system more flexibility - make it so that you can click to only join groups in progress. Problem solved.

Because a 2/3 dungeon isn't the same as a 0/3 or 1/3. People will still join/drop from the queue to try to get a 2/3 for a fast clear.

[Tanama]

Let's put it this way? Do you REALLY want to join a party that is 0/4 or 1/4? This usually mean they can't even killl the first boss or keep wiping to wall.

Yes. I go into these 0/4, 1/4 dungeons and carry them to the finish line. All that is needed is a little patience and happy feelings.

[joshdavis271]

I don't like to queue for a near finished dungeon, it takes the fun out of playing with different parties with different strategies.

[Dreamer]

Last week I had all three sets for Brayflox nearly completed. The only thing I lacked were the tanking and dps chestpieces, which drop from the last boss. I spent basically two entire evening queuing for parties in progress. It was pretty much always instanta pop - sometimes 0/4 complete, sometimes 1/4 or 2/4, and very occasionally 3/4. But I ran them all. There are a LOT of bad and/or inexperienced tanks out there.

By joining partially completed runs, I was able to get the gear I needed faster, and groups were saved from having to disband and requeue. Is this open to abuse? Sure. But for every person who abuses this, I like to think that there's at least one person using it as intended. Tanks and healers already rarely queue for groups in progress, so I'm not sure it's a wise idea to give them any less incentive to do so.