People abusing party in progress option

[wildgalax]

Not peoples fault no counter measure for this has been implemented yet, and some people want to be able to be given the option to quit the dungeon without penalty, to not get stuck with people they dont like. Also most groups in 'in progress' had better geared players as opposed to fresh. And last i think a only join in progress option should be there for people who dont want fresh dungeons.

So deal with it.

[Freakiie]

So wait. People are seriously justifying only joining runs that are almost done? Seriously? And then people complain about elitists and what not.....

Yes, I have in progress runs tagged. Do I do it to increase the chances of a queue? Yes. Do I do so I can join groups that are almost done? No. If I see a WP run on 0/3 or 1/3 I don't go "pffft, not almost done enough for me", I simply join them. Almost all the time their healer either quit right away because they didn't like the gear (yet the run still goes smooth enough lol) or they DCed somewhere.

People using this system to get into runs where a tank/healer DCed/had to leave just before the final boss are just being jerks. Nothing more, nothing less and they really shouldn't be trying to justify their behaviour. If you really don't have the time to complete a full run, gtfo mmos. If you only want to do the last boss and get full rewards, once more gtfo mmos. They're clearly not meant for you.

[Astarica]

So wait. People are seriously justifying only joining runs that are almost done? Seriously? And then people complain about elitists and what not.....

But it doesn't even really matter, because anyone who has 'join group in progress' should know an AK 2/3 is likely an easy 40 mstone for almost no work. The guys who don't have the setting checked would never be competing against you, and anyone who has it checked should take the obvious 2/3 queue pops. So in the end excuses are just that, excuses, and you don't even come out ahead because there isn't some fantasy world where people are declining the 2/3 queue pops.

[amnie]

so, I've been to busy farming mats the last 2 weeks, and now I read something about a penalty for declining duty finder.
this makes me wonder:
has the bug that sends you into a finished dungeon be fixed yet? lucky enough that has only happened to me on a healer so far that I had to read 3/3 or 4/4 so the queue time wasn't so bad, but annoying it was either way and of course I denied that pop..

[Dreamer]

A full page talking about penalizing. Why not just give the system more flexibility - make it so that you can click to only join groups in progress. Problem solved.

[Reiterpallasch]

A full page talking about penalizing. Why not just give the system more flexibility - make it so that you can click to only join groups in progress. Problem solved.

Because a 2/3 dungeon isn't the same as a 0/3 or 1/3. People will still join/drop from the queue to try to get a 2/3 for a fast clear.

[blowfin]

People using this system to get into runs where a tank/healer DCed/had to leave just before the final boss are just being jerks. Nothing more, nothing less and they really shouldn't be trying to justify their behavior.

Pretty much this, I always wondered why (in particular tanks) did this to groups in DF. You get maybe 10-15 withdrawals before getting a full party. It's got better recently but was really horrible in the first month or so of release.

Now that I know the reason, I'm dumbfounded that people are so lazy and try to justify wasting other people's time to serve their own purposes. That's really what it boils down to. Not to mention that fact that the time people waste looking for an in progress group could be used to actually complete the dungeon normally. Don't know what the average time for finding an in progress group is, but it must take quite a while sometimes.

[blowfin]

On the plus side, this should get better with 2.1. Certainly after we get iLvl restrictions, there's going to be much fewer reasons for people to abandon groups. Which will decrease the opportunity for people to join in progress.

[joshdavis271]

I don't like to queue for a near finished dungeon, it takes the fun out of playing with different parties with different strategies.

[Dreamer]

Last week I had all three sets for Brayflox nearly completed. The only thing I lacked were the tanking and dps chestpieces, which drop from the last boss. I spent basically two entire evening queuing for parties in progress. It was pretty much always instanta pop - sometimes 0/4 complete, sometimes 1/4 or 2/4, and very occasionally 3/4. But I ran them all. There are a LOT of bad and/or inexperienced tanks out there.

By joining partially completed runs, I was able to get the gear I needed faster, and groups were saved from having to disband and requeue. Is this open to abuse? Sure. But for every person who abuses this, I like to think that there's at least one person using it as intended. Tanks and healers already rarely queue for groups in progress, so I'm not sure it's a wise idea to give them any less incentive to do so.