People abusing party in progress option

[Astarica]

All the justification for joining in progress is a pretty cute way to say "I want to be carried", and it doesn't even matter because apparently in some people's mind, you'd have a guy who click 'join in progress' checkbox, and then say it pops up AK with 2/3 cleared, that guy is going to say, "This means they're at Ananatoboga which means a smooth sailing to an easy 40m stones. I better NOT join this party!" Anyone else who sees the "2/3 AK completed" will easily realize this is most likely an easy win and take their chance (there's a slim chance say everyone ragequit at Ananbotoga with 5 minutes left but you got to take your chances). Since the DF is still a first come first served deal, having a 'join only groups that already did all the work' wouldn't do you any good, because anyone else can easily see when a group has done all the work and you wouldn't get these freebies any more often because everyone ahead of you in the queue will definitely claim those freebies.

[Xellos2099]

Let's put it this way? Do you REALLY want to join a party that is 0/4 or 1/4? This usually mean they can't even killl the first boss or keep wiping to wall.

[Astarica]

Let's put it this way? Do you REALLY want to join a party that is 0/4 or 1/4? This usually mean they can't even killl the first boss or keep wiping to wall.

Yeah, and you're the only person smart enough to figure this out while no one else can.

These excuses are cute, and ultimately do not even matter, because you only need to run AK about once before you realize 0/3 and 1/3 is probably bad news and 2/3 is likely good news. You're not increasing your chances any because there's literally no way anyone with a clue will turn down a 2/3 AK.

[Tanama]

Let's put it this way? Do you REALLY want to join a party that is 0/4 or 1/4? This usually mean they can't even killl the first boss or keep wiping to wall.

Yes. I go into these 0/4, 1/4 dungeons and carry them to the finish line. All that is needed is a little patience and happy feelings.

[amnie]

Yes. I go into these 0/4, 1/4 dungeons and carry them to the finish line. All that is needed is a little patience and happy feelings.

I can't even count how often I entered a dungeon on my whm where the group was at the first boss. my reaction is asking 'healer ragequit?' and 99% of the time people say 'yes'. I do not remember ever having the group actually being bad. (though timer works against us often)

but that also is in line with my experience when a tank decides to ditch the group (or healer when I don't heal)

I really weep for these people because they are obviously used to being carried and not used to actually putting their weight
they expect flawless runs, doing little to nothing, in far outleveled grey gear (I am not 50) and moan because the first boss in brayflox eats them. (I can .not. heal through that. I can't do more than spam cure. no, I can't cast regen on you either; I'm downsynched to 34. though I doubt you'd be able to hold aggro)

[Maxthunder]

Seriously it seems someone always has complaint about something. To both side's this isnt burger king you cant have it your way. This is a MMO and you/me/everyone needs to deal with small issue's regardless because players can change their mind at anytime. This is something that should have been fixed before launch but.. in fact it was over looked, dont blame the players blame the dev's for this.

[Ishmachiah]

Do you honestly believe adding a penalty to players ((tanks and healers)) who refuse DF before a full group is sent in will solve anything? It wouldn't. It would make the situation worse and you know it.

Tanks and healers would switch to only grouping with FC/LS mates and queue for DF leaving the solo players once again on the forums bitching about the long queue times. SE would present another statement about how they know of the issue and will work on fixing it while saying to themselves that the player-base made this bed and needs to lie in it.

[Yshnal]

You can't blame people for wanting to get their points done fast.

[...] dont blame the players blame the dev's for this.

These things really get on my nerves. So if I go out there and I start snatching purses to grandmas is not my fault, right? It was theirs for going alone, obviously. Stop using lame excuses and admit that you're doing something that's morally wrong, for a change, instead of saying that it's someone else's fault. If someone is purposely and repeatedly leaving a queue because they're looking for an almost finished duty, they're doing it wrong. Not Square-Enix (who can fix it, tho, but shouldn't have to), not the other players (who can simply stop using the DF). They.

If you do this you're potentially wasting their time. Assuming that there was two tanks ready to go into that dungeon and, at least, two groups looking for one, when one of those two tanks drops the queue after being accepted into one of the groups, it's making that same group lose their opportunity of getting the other tank that was in the queue too. Really simplifying it there, you know that the numbers would be a lot bigger, and not towards the tank side, so you get the idea.

It's ok if you don't have enough time for doing a full run, but don't be a lazy and selfish jerk and make other people lose the little time that they might have too. Their time is worth the same as yours.

[Mairuzu]

These things really get on my nerves. So if I go out there and I start snatching purses to grandmas is not my fault, right? It was theirs for going alone, obviously.

How the hell does snatching purses from grandmothers resemble, in any way, joining a queue for an already started group on a video game? (Hint: It doesn't) What an absurdly fallacious comparison. You should be ashamed of trying to pass this off as logical.

[Sephirah]

After reading over this thread I can only come to one conclusion...

The tanks doing this are more willing to take a 15 minute debuff than clear a fresh dungeon. When the entire dungeon itself only takes about 20 minutes... they are more than likely TERRIBLE tanks, and you shouldn't worry about losing them.

lol

Glad I never have to worry about grouping with you for anything XD