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  1. #951
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    Blitz_Striker's Avatar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    hey guys can i ask some advise im at 44 crit and 26 det already.. is it okay if i add the 5 alex to SS? is it worth it?
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  2. #952
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Skeith-Adeline View Post
    Should I skip the Novus then? I have the 110 weapon and am working on T9...
    If you have the soldiery weapon it is more then good enough to do up to T9 and try to get the ha weapon.
    New weapons will come out yet again future updates so bis will most likely change yet again.
    Just as a sort of fyi my crit is over 500 with the soldiery weapon and i still have some gear left to be upgraded
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  3. #953
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    Sariena Adeline
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    With the news that the next Zodiac Weapon upgrade will be in 2.38, I'm a little cautious about continuing the quest. I only have the Atma class weapon and still have 7 books left before animus. Would it be worth it to skip and see what 2.4 brings? Not sure if these next 3 weeks will be enough time to get my Novus, especially on Zalera with the bad MB prices
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  4. #954
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    Well if you did not have atma weapon then I would of suggested Soldiey weapon, but because you have atma and started it I would say finish it. Reason being most likely you will need to have the Novus for the next weapon upgrade, and who knows it may require more fate grinding with Novus equipped? I sure hope not but never know
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  5. #955
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    Updated 'Calculator' (v5.0) and 'Spell Rotation' Page

    Added 'Gear 2.35' Page


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    *Tweaked the calculator so that all Firestarter proc are accounted for instead of the previous 100 spells limit. Turns out 'F5 T1 B' is the best rotation.

    *As for Macro Timing, you CAN modify to tenth decimal place. (ie. /wait 0.4 = 0.4 sec and not 0 sec), this proves that Firestarter proc takes exactly 0.5 sec after Fire I finished casting. (Please go test on dummy and see for yourself before disputing this claim)

    *As for Fire Weaving, the best possible pattern is when you have back-to-back proc, but that only has 10% chance statistically. So, weaving at last Fire I (5th) before casting Blizzard III is actually the best route with 40% chance.

    *Weaving every last Fire I with perfect RNG of 60% Fail and 40% Success rate, you would actually gain +0.1 to +0.3 DPS overall (+2.5 to +2.8 DPS if CRIT), depending on rotation used.
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  6. #956
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Quote Originally Posted by PuroStrider View Post
    *As for Macro Timing, you CAN modify to tenth decimal place. (ie. /wait 0.4 = 0.4 sec and not 0 sec), this proves that Firestarter proc takes exactly 0.5 sec after Fire I finished casting. (Please go test on dummy and see for yourself before disputing this claim)
    Faulty logic. Wait 0 is an invalid command and will default to wait 1.

    If you want to "dispute" the disputing, use higher integers.
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  7. #957
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    Quote Originally Posted by PuroStrider View Post
    *Tweaked the calculator so that all Firestarter proc are accounted for instead of the previous 100 spells limit. Turns out 'F5 T1 B' is the best rotation.
    Something I'm wondering about... assuming you DO have 251 Pie, how does F5 T2 B1 come out? Wasn't able to figure out a way to swap the stats around for that on the calc.

    Also, as a side note given the number of people doing the +Pie/Det/SSPD builds on their Novus... would it be possible to determine how a Novus with those builds affect the DPS output (again assuming the +Pie number is meant to hit 251). Mine for example is +8 Pie/+23 Det/+44 SSPD.
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    Last edited by Numenor1379; 08-31-2014 at 05:48 AM.

  8. #958
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    Philia Felice
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    Quote Originally Posted by PuroStrider View Post
    *As for Macro Timing, you CAN modify to tenth decimal place. (ie. /wait 0.4 = 0.4 sec and not 0 sec), this proves that Firestarter proc takes exactly 0.5 sec after Fire I finished casting. (Please go test on dummy and see for yourself before disputing this claim)
    I have tested for hours, at point blank range, doing the smash F3 after final Fire method. Firestarter procs are in no way on a set timer, you can get it near instantly or you can smash F3 for a second then go to cast B3 and it procs. It's either occasional severe server delay or some form of other updating mechanic. The only way I know of to make it consistent is to use Lethargy/Surecast to force an update, which is a little slower than the fast Firestarters you can get but a bit faster than the randomly very slow Firestarters, and much much faster than if you get a slow Firestarter and choose to interrupt B3 for it.

    Also as mentioned above, there is no decimal place in macros yet. It always rounds. 1s will almost always catch a Firestarter, which is why you consistently got it.
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  9. #959
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    Adamant Ackerman
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    Leviathan
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    Faulty logic. Wait 0 is an invalid command and will default to wait 1.

    If you want to "dispute" the disputing, use higher integers.
    To add on to this:

    Source 1:http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest.../text_command/
    <wait.(wait time)>
    Adjust the pause between macro commands. Only integers can be used with this command. The maximum wait time allowed is 60. If the wait time amount is over 60, it will be counted as 60.
    Source 2: http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...ed_macro_tips/
    6 - CHEATING A 2.5 SECOND WAIT TIME

    As you may know, macros round up all wait times to the nearest second. If you do Savage Blade -> Wait 2.5 -> Rage of Halone, the 2.5 will actually be a 3 second wait, so this type of macro that pops two skills at once is often very suboptimal as it will be slower than manual pressing.
    Source 3: Someone complaining about decimals not working for macros. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...imal-precision

    Macros, in my experience and testing, have never allowed decimals, and the difference between, for example, 1.5 and 2 has always been noticeable to me, which is why I never bothered using macros. I perform everything faster manually.
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    Last edited by Adamantium; 08-31-2014 at 07:03 AM.

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    Deleted because herp derp

  11. #960
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    *Tweaked Calculator a bit more (v5.1 is latest) with MIN/MAX DPS for all rotation.

    *Spell Rotation Page is also updated


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    @Numenor1379 - F5 T2 B is included in calculator page. It's pretty much less than 1 DPS difference compared to F5 T1 B.

    @Everyone else about macro timing - I did some extensive testing and it seems like /wait 0.0 to 0.4 = not register, /wait 0.5 to 0.9 = rounded up to 1 sec.

    I did researched couple of Dev posts about not being able to do tenth decimal place in macro, but I guess I disproved it with the wrong method (/point Kenji)

    I'll probably do some Firestarter timing testing some other time.

    Thanks for all the fact checks and what not.
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