The Ultimate Black Mage Resources with Damage Calculator

[LetBloodline]

Um, did you typo something? Cause you just said 269 PIE < 251 PIE.

Also, how much do you lose from that .5s delay on the 60% of rotations where you don't get a Firestarter proc at the end of the fire phase?

Actwally we are bound to mana tick so 0,5 wait translate 1/6 times in 3 more seconds and 5/6 less wait needed in UI3.

[YanderePrincess]

Actwally we are bound to mana tick so 0,5 wait translate 1/6 times in 3 more seconds and 5/6 less wait needed in UI3.

I'm not sure what you're meaning. I'm just talking about the stacking (over time) .5s of no casting. On the 40% of rotations where that .5s lets you cast an AF3'd Fire III before switching to UI, I assume the idea is you're making up the lost time with the extra damage of AF3 Fire III vs the AF1 Fire III if you save it. 60% of the time, however, you wait .5s without a Firestarter proc, so you're losing .5s*(60% of your rotations) with nothing to augment your damage.

So, while the AF1 Fire III might be weaker than the AF3 Fire III, can getting that 40% of the time actually make up for the dps loss from time not spent casting.

And that's just the "on paper" aspect. Still doesn't accommodate the in-practice fact that it's going to be a greater than .5s delay because of mental processing and reaction time to notice the proc and choose to cast it instead of Blizzard III or notice the lack of proc and begin casting Blizzard III.

[LetBloodline]

Think is that your rotation is bound to mana tiks that proc each 3 seconds unbound to your rotation. When you enter UI3 you need 2 mana ticks to full mana and go back to AF. This could take you little as 3,1 secs or up to 5,9 secs.
Let's make 2 examples
Case a: i fire last fire1 and next mana tic will be in 3 seconds. If you go directly in UI we have let's round at 2 secs cast of B3 so you'll stay in UI for more or less 4 seconds (1 sec to mana tic + for next one). If you fireweave you "waste" 0.5 secs but in reality you'll need to stay in UI just 3,5 secs so you are "recovering" that half second.
What if you are instead 2,1 secs away from mana regen? If you go instantly with B3 (always round ed at 2 sec cast) you'll have a real fast UI of just 3,1 secs. If you fireweave instead the mana tik will be wasted while you are still in AF so you must wait next one. You'll then have to wait 5,6 secs (2,6 + 3)
Since the wait is 0,5 on a cycle of mana regen of 3 secs the rough probability to loose a mana tik is 1 out of 6 times

Anyway no one noticed that puro to answer the mana issue with firestarter took wrongly the extreme case? True, big guys still won't be able to cast T2 but for many other races that mana is more then enough to use T2 so the point or T2 even with no 251 piety is still valid

Ps: don't get me wrong, my point is that 1 out if 6 times have the rotation last 3 more secs is quite heavy and it's all more reason to not fireweave unless you need the cast you are about to use (say a sprint or apocatast or ExE etc etc etc)

[YanderePrincess]

Since the wait is 0,5 on a cycle of mana regen of 3 secs the rough probability to loose a mana tik is 1 out of 6 times

Okay, but I don't think that's related to the point I was making. I'm not talking about losing mana ticks, or whether you have to wait for essentially two full ticks going from AF3>UI3>AF3. I'm talking about simply the fact that 60% of the time you cast your last Fire I in the rotation, you won't get a Firestarter proc, so you've waited .5 seconds and gained nothing.

Does the difference between AF3 Fire III and AF1 Fire III (both of which only happen 40% of the time) make up for wasting .5 seconds for nothing 60% of the time?

[LetBloodline]

Okay, but I don't think that's related to the point I was making. I'm not talking about losing mana ticks, or whether you have to wait for essentially two full ticks going from AF3>UI3>AF3. I'm talking about simply the fact that 60% of the time you cast your last Fire I in the rotation, you won't get a Firestarter proc, so you've waited .5 seconds and gained nothing.

Does the difference between AF3 Fire III and AF1 Fire III (both of which only happen 40% of the time) make up for wasting .5 seconds for nothing 60% of the time?

In my opinion you have many more consequency of you heve that firestarter ready and not waste those 0,5 secs that make so it's not worth it

[Skeith-Adeline]

Where does a BLM fall now in DPS? Are we still second to last?

I was told that my DPS was 406 with a burst of 520... it should be higher?

(I did have horrible luck on procs and critical hits though, and it was on a level 50 dummy with no outside interference. ilvl 106 (103 when tested))

[Zencurse]

Where does a BLM fall now in DPS? Are we still second to last?

I was told that my DPS was 406 with a burst of 520... it should be higher?

(I did have horrible luck on procs and critical hits though, and it was on a level 50 dummy with no outside interference. ilvl 106 (103 when tested))

Assuming you weren't in a party for the int buff, the sustained seems fine...The burst might be a little low but a BLM burst at the start of the fight is highly crit dependent. Could also be gear, since the jury is still out on a new BiS list (if it does change) its possible that since crit COULD be our worst stat now since the patch your itemization is wrong as well. Lots of little things, but 406 on a dummy with no food/buffs seems decent enough to me. Then again I've been 110 since the before 2.4 and have no idea how the patch changed dps numbers at lower ilvls.

[Skeith-Adeline]

Actually forgot to use food and Int Potions for burst haha. I have a good crit at 515, but rarely anything crit. I can usually get a nice 6k from a double flare, but they didn't crit and only hit for 1700 each. I'll test again today if my friend is on.



A question about BiS... I have no second coil gear, nor animus. Is there a BiS for pre-second coil, no Animus? I do have the laevaettein(horrible spelling@. @)

[Numenor1379]

A question about BiS... I have no second coil gear, nor animus. Is there a BiS for pre-second coil, no Animus? I do have the laevaettein(horrible spelling@. @)

Here's an older link with pre-T6 BiS info for you: http://www.ffxivguild.com/ffxiv-blac...-gear-guide/2/

You're Laevateinn is better than any of the weapons listed so for you that's alread BiS. Other than that, remember that Syrcus Tower drops i100 gear with some pretty nice stats on them that depending on your other gear will be BiS.

They can also be used to plug holes your current gear has. For example, I'm normally wearing full Weathered gear except my boots which are the ST drops. My ACC is only 448, so were I doing SCoB that'd be too low. However, I can just toss on my Scylla Robe of Casting and be at 474 ACC which is enough for T9.

Here's another quick tool to use for figuring out what gear to run with: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/

[Skeith-Adeline]

I have 110 gear in all but t6 drop slots since I'm betting on them to drop @. @'

Err, how do you use that gear calculator? Is there a guide I can read up on?